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skyward_eyes
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Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new
      #6188654 - 11/11/13 01:37 PM Attachment (341 downloads)

For ASAE this year Sky-Watcher USA will be displaying it's entire product line from our 80mm ED doublet to our 16" Collapsible Dobsonian. But we also have something special as well, our prototype 18" light weight truss dobsonian.

The 18" is unlike anything we've ever done in previous dobsonians. The entire structure is metal, using a skeletal like design to save on weight (full telescope is 150 pounds including optics). The primary mirror is a cellular sandwich design providing fast cooling and light weight, only 20 pounds! The primary is 2" in thickness and has a focal ratio of f/4.12 producing a low eyepiece height!

The telescope will be on display both days. Please remember this is still a prototype. We will be looking for feed back both good and bad. We want to know what you think so we can further the design to provide the first affordable 18" dobsonian!


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BillP
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: skyward_eyes]
      #6189485 - 11/11/13 09:15 PM

Looks wonderful. Hopefully you can also bring it to NEAF this April

Once you get the skeletal structure out of prototype stage, would be nice to see that framework as an option for the 16" as well.


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skyward_eyes
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: BillP]
      #6189759 - 11/11/13 11:37 PM

I'm pretty sure the 18" will be at NEAF. I won't know until we get closer. I would also like to adapt the structure to a 16". At this time there are no plans at this time for a 16" but I think it would be a good offering once everything it worked out on the 18.

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Astrojensen
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: skyward_eyes]
      #6196624 - 11/15/13 02:10 PM

WOOOW! It looks A-MAZING!

Do you have any idea of an estimated price? I am definitely very, very interested.


Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark


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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: Astrojensen]
      #6196649 - 11/15/13 02:30 PM

Wow! Price estimates?

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skyward_eyes
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: MDavid]
      #6197759 - 11/16/13 08:26 AM

At the moment I don't have anything solid but I believe between $4000-5000 US. This scope is probably about a year out as there are a few adjustments that need to be made.

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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: skyward_eyes]
      #6199320 - 11/17/13 02:30 AM

Quote:

...our prototype 18" light weight truss dobsonian...

...full telescope is 150 pounds including optics.




Is "150 pounds" a misprint? That's more than the weight of a classic 18-inch Obsession. A lightweight 18-inch should be well under 100 pounds.

Albert


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skyward_eyes
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: Albert]
      #6199568 - 11/17/13 09:31 AM

That was the weight given by the factory. I plan on weighing it again once we are back at the offices.

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JayinUT
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: skyward_eyes]
      #6199828 - 11/17/13 12:20 PM

Are you thinking of anything bigger than 18"? Say in the 20" to 24" range?

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nevy
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: JayinUT]
      #6200537 - 11/17/13 07:09 PM

If it's gonna be tweaked then maybe a thinner mirror would be usefull, ( lighter & quicker cool down ).

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skyward_eyes
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: JayinUT]
      #6201370 - 11/18/13 10:12 AM

There are plans for a 20". The mirrors are cellular sandwich mirrors and the 18" primary already weighs 20 pounds. Not much more we can cut out as far as weight.

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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: skyward_eyes]
      #6201541 - 11/18/13 11:47 AM

Definitely an impressive prototype! DSO'ers are going to love it!

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mattflastro
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! [Re: skyward_eyes]
      #6201583 - 11/18/13 12:18 PM

Quote:

There are plans for a 20". The mirrors are cellular sandwich mirrors and the 18" primary already weighs 20 pounds. Not much more we can cut out as far as weight.



I definitely wouldn't worry about weight.
If the primary mirror weighs only 20 pounds for the 18" scope, then definitely the 150 pounds is a misprint or includes the packaging , crating or who knows what else . Definitely a 20 lbs mirror would not balance like that in a 150 lbs scope . What I'm trying to say is that a 150 lb scope with a 20 lb mirror would be so top heavy that it wouldn't be able to maintain its position without significant counterweights. Since the proto doesn't have this issue, clearly it's not 150 lb , must be much lighter in reality.


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Skylook123
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: mattflastro]
      #6213018 - 11/24/13 11:16 AM

Just for information, my full sized, 13 layer birch 18" f/5 Teeter is around 140 pounds. And the mirror is a full thickness item around 60 pounds or so.

I think Sky-Watcher will have quite a portable product line, Kevin. Let's hope enough customers are hiding out there.


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Dom543
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: Skylook123]
      #6214239 - 11/24/13 11:07 PM

This looks very similar to the Hubble Optics UL-18. The sandwich mirror has exactly the same focal length. I wouldn't be surprised, if it came from the same source.

The UL-18 weights 72 lbs fully assembled and is currently available for $3695 in its base configuration.

--Dom


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skyward_eyes
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Re: Sky-Watcher USA: 18" Prototype Dob at ASAE! new [Re: Dom543]
      #6218326 - 11/26/13 10:52 PM

Our primary mirrors for our 18" are made by Synta. We have no relationship to Hubble Optics once so ever.

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