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LDW47
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Grab and Go
      #6206036 - 11/20/13 04:31 PM

There have been on going back and forth discussions on Grab and Go ! So let's get everyone's thoughts as to the definition / meaning of G & G if one can actually come up with a final that will satisfy everyone's interpretations ! This should be interesting if nothing else !?

Edited by LDW47 (11/20/13 04:33 PM)


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mayidunk
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: LDW47]
      #6206085 - 11/20/13 05:09 PM

It's a telescope, mount, and eyepiece(s) that are ready to go at a moment's notice. The scope will either already be equilibrated, or close to it. When assembled, their combined weight and size would make them easy to pickup, and easy to relocate.

For me, I have a C6, and C90 OTA in the trunk of the car, soaking in the ambient temperature. It only takes a few minutes to set up the mount, run and get an OTA, mount it, and start viewing. If I want to move it, I can easily pick it all up as one piece, and move it around without any strain. This may not be "officially" grab 'n go (since the OTA is stored separate from the mount), but it still works for me!

YMMV...



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chazcheese
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: mayidunk]
      #6206105 - 11/20/13 05:22 PM

My definition is a setup that you don't have to either assemble at all and can carry with one hand out the door or you can have both the scope and mount in each hand and get out in one trip. The two hand method requires only one button push to put on or take off the scope.
My Manfrotto 3021 tripod w/Manfrotto 501 mount and ST80 is my heavy G&G. The Manfrotto compact mkc3-h01 mount & tripod with the Stellarvue 50mm finder/mini-telescope is the light G&G. The only time they're not setup and ready to go is when the grandkids are over

Edited by chazcheese (11/20/13 05:39 PM)


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-Starfighter-
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: mayidunk]
      #6206115 - 11/20/13 05:27 PM

2 main things for a grab and go:

1) Mobility
2) Ease of set-up

My version is a short tube refractor with an alt z mount. My set-up is a little large for mobility, best would be a MAK 90 or small comparable refractor with an alt z. If you can hike with it in your back pack that's mobile.


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dpippel
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: -Starfighter-]
      #6206120 - 11/20/13 05:31 PM

The only criteria I have for designating a setup as grab-and-go is whether or not I can pick up the entire rig - OTA/mount/tripod - and easily carry it in and out of the house. I leave my C80 mounted up on it's tripod just for this purpose. No set up required. Carry it out back, take the caps off, and observe in less than a few minutes.

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MessiToM
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: dpippel]
      #6206122 - 11/20/13 05:33 PM

I miss those days. ^

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rockethead26
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: mayidunk]
      #6206139 - 11/20/13 05:39 PM

Quote:

It's a telescope, mount, and eyepiece(s) that are ready to go at a moment's notice






This sounds like a good, simple definition to me.

I just this week put together my first Grab and Go. A C80ED on a Porta II mount and a wooden tripod. My Baader Hyperion Zoom lives in the 2" diagonal. The whole thing can easily be picked up and carried out the front door. It takes about a minute from decision to observing.

If I want to stay out a while I'll need to run in and grab my observing chair. Make that 1 1/2 minutes.


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dpippel
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: rockethead26]
      #6206184 - 11/20/13 06:03 PM

^ My setup exactly Jim, although I have a Celestron zoom instead of the Baader. The rig is a pleasure to use and the simplicity is a big part of that IMO.

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youngamateur42
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: dpippel]
      #6206234 - 11/20/13 06:34 PM

Like many of the responses, portability, ease of use, etc. my grab and go us my Observer 70. It weighs about 6 and a half pounds and can be set up on a moments notice. I think that one of the best things to have and is a big part of grab and go is a zoom eyepiece. Most of the 8-24's out there are pretty good, and have a large range of magnifications available. I need to get a zoom again

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Kevdog
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: mayidunk]
      #6206255 - 11/20/13 06:51 PM

Quote:

It's a telescope, mount, and eyepiece(s) that are ready to go at a moment's notice. The scope will either already be equilibrated, or close to it. When assembled, their combined weight and size would make them easy to pickup, and easy to relocate.

For me, I have a C6, and C90 OTA in the trunk of the car, soaking in the ambient temperature. It only takes a few minutes to set up the mount, run and get an OTA, mount it, and start viewing. If I want to move it, I can easily pick it all up as one piece, and move it around without any strain. This may not be "officially" grab 'n go (since the OTA is stored separate from the mount), but it still works for me!

YMMV...






Everyone has their own idea. For me I tried a 4" Celestron on a mount and it only took a couple minutes to move out. But my 18" Obsession has wheelbarrow wheels on. I keep it in the garage, so I just wheel it out and with the laser collimation it's ready to view in 10 mins or less. It's grab-n-go for me!


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-Starfighter-
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: Kevdog]
      #6206290 - 11/20/13 07:09 PM

I second the zoom eyepiece...

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Pauls72
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: -Starfighter-]
      #6206373 - 11/20/13 07:49 PM

I can carry everything out in one trip. Just enough so I can go out sit down and enjoy the night sky.
EQ1 style gem with a 102mm MCT or ST80 and one or two eyepieces.


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lagagnon
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: -Starfighter-]
      #6206381 - 11/20/13 07:53 PM

Grab and go is the "usual" for me. I live on the south edge of a city of 300,000 and have a lot of tall trees in my small back yard and a very bright streetlight in the front. My usual observing location is an official dark sky site 15-20 minutes drive away - although it's not all that dark ;-)

My only scope is a Celestron CR-150HD 6" refractor. I have the tube in scope bag with finder attached, the mount ready and setup on the tripod in my garage and accessories in a plastic storage bin.

I can have all in the back of a Toyota Matrix in 1 minute, setup takes me about 5 minutes, so I'm basically ready to observe in less than half an hour and still waiting for my eyes to dark adapt.

I'm happy with that at the moment. There is a much better dark sky site about 1 hours drive away but have not yet tried that site. Still a newbie and always learning...


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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: lagagnon]
      #6206391 - 11/20/13 07:59 PM Attachment (68 downloads)

my grab and go, I can pick it up and go, preferably with one hand, all in one trip.

here's my one handed rig. eyepieces in my coat, so it is a one trip grab and go.


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DarkDisplay
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: LDW47]
      #6206732 - 11/20/13 11:44 PM

Just right for me is my Vanguard Endeavor HD spotting scope and Endeavor ED binocular. A wonderful grab and go combo for day or night viewing. Very light and portable. (See my recent post in the "Binoculars" forum.)

Best wishes,
Frank


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esd726
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: LDW47]
      #6206798 - 11/21/13 12:40 AM

If I can take it outside, use it "right away" and then take right back in. All this with the leasts amount of work.

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WesC
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: esd726]
      #6206852 - 11/21/13 01:56 AM

A good pair of binoculars.

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nicknacknock
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: WesC]
      #6206957 - 11/21/13 05:24 AM

A small Mak and a tripod.

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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: nicknacknock]
      #6207070 - 11/21/13 08:19 AM

I had a GrabnGo, then my wife got jealous.....

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dpippel
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: WesC]
      #6207160 - 11/21/13 09:12 AM

Quote:

A good pair of binoculars.




There's one in every crowd...


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