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Eric63
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Loc: Ottawa, Ontario
Re: Grab and Go new [Re: LDW47]
      #6216290 - 11/25/13 10:57 PM

Right now my 127mak + az4 is my grab & go set up and it is 30 lbs with the 2" diagonal and 2" 32mm ep. A bit on the heavy side, but still manageable. I think the Aluminum legs will be fine in your case. My old 102 achro was on an az3 and it was fine (a bit shaky at high mags, but it settled quickly). I loved how light that combo was.

Eric


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LDW47
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Loc: North Bay,Ontario,Canada
Re: Grab and Go new [Re: Eric63]
      #6216326 - 11/25/13 11:30 PM

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Right now my 127mak + az4 is my grab & go set up and it is 30 lbs with the 2" diagonal and 2" 32mm ep. A bit on the heavy side, but still manageable. I think the Aluminum legs will be fine in your case. My old 102 achro was on an az3 and it was fine (a bit shaky at high mags, but it settled quickly). I loved how light that combo was.

Eric


I agree !

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WAVT
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: LDW47]
      #6216395 - 11/26/13 12:41 AM Attachment (25 downloads)

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How do you like the Portamount ?



I like the Porta mount quite alot. The tripod that came with it was a bit too light and shakey and I sent it back and got the Vixen HAL130 for it to sit on. I think they called it the "Star Guy" package for a while. That was a very worthwhile upgrade. Manny Miles also will fab up some pretty slick adaptors for the Porta Mount. Great guy to work with.

My C6 was pretty shakey on the original tripod but is quite acceptable with the HAL130.


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drago
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Reged: 01/11/08

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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: WAVT]
      #6216566 - 11/26/13 06:30 AM

want to share my things and experience.
once, in a long ago, in a galaxy....
ptfu!
yes, long ago i purchased 66mm refractor as a mobile grab and go.
it replaces synta 707az2, my previous, 70 mm grab and go achro.

new refractor, uses, is small, very portable, and in coffer (box) with diagonal, essential 3 eyepieces, 2x barlow, solar filter and so on weights only 5 kilograms, and is a barely compact.

after some time i purchased also synta 100ed - it is noticeably bigger, and in koffer ( box) with the same essential components weight twice - 10 kilograms, and is more than two times taller - objectively noticeably less mobile.
and when i going around, i mostly take 66mm refractor with me - i am a big "mobility" and "grab and go" fanat.
but one time i do a all my telescopes comparision - and there i see, even on moon - 100mm gives a strong, another level view than 66sd. on m13 - the same. and i understand, for me, that difference in result is big enought, for i take with me 100ed instead of 66sd almost in all situations. difference i was so big, than weight and size is not important....


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kenrenard
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Reged: 12/13/12

Loc: Dunmore, PA
Re: Grab and Go new [Re: drago]
      #6216591 - 11/26/13 07:17 AM Attachment (50 downloads)

My little Scope. Always ready to go!

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Jon Isaacs
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: Eric63]
      #6216597 - 11/26/13 07:26 AM

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I was close. I got 19 lbs using the bathroom scale.

Eric




I have an AZ-4 with the steel legs. Unfortunately it's on loan to a friend but I have a hard time believing it weighs 19lbs. I guess I will have to steal it back and weigh it myself.

Jon

Edited by Jon Isaacs (11/26/13 07:35 AM)


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Eric63
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Loc: Ottawa, Ontario
Re: Grab and Go new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #6216612 - 11/26/13 07:56 AM

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Quote:

I was close. I got 19 lbs using the bathroom scale.

Eric




I have an AZ-4 with the steel legs. Unfortunately it's on loan to a friend but I have a hard time believing it weighs 19lbs. I guess I will have to steal it back and weigh it myself.

Jon




I was also surprised. According to the Skywatcher manual, it weights 18.5 lbs.

http://www.skywatcher.com/downloads/AZ4%20Altzimuth%20Mount-100412V1.pdf

Eric


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Illinois
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: Eric63]
      #6216658 - 11/26/13 08:42 AM Attachment (48 downloads)

Few Years ago I like my 100mm f9 refractor for grab and go until now I love my 5 inch f7.5 refractor for grab and go! I put my scope outside for 1 hour while I watch tv then I go outside to look at stars. 5 inch refractor is my biggest grab and go telescope. Here is picture to compare of my two telescope! 3.9" and 5" refractor.

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LDW47
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Loc: North Bay,Ontario,Canada
Re: Grab and Go new [Re: Eric63]
      #6217228 - 11/26/13 01:24 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

I was close. I got 19 lbs using the bathroom scale.

Eric




I have an AZ-4 with the steel legs. Unfortunately it's on loan to a friend but I have a hard time believing it weighs 19lbs. I guess I will have to steal it back and weigh it myself.

Jon




I was also surprised. According to the Skywatcher manual, it weights 18.5 lbs.

http://www.skywatcher.com/downloads/AZ4%20Altzimuth%20Mount-100412V1.pdf

Eric


So the aluminum is 5.5 lb lighter than the steel !? It's not too late for me to take the mount with the steel legs from my guy rather than the aluminum ! The 102 mm Antares would still be a good G & G, on the high side weight wise, but I would have the heavier mount for the future !! I better think about this a little more, it' s a Xmas gift from me to me !!

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Kraus
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Reged: 03/10/12

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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: LDW47]
      #6217428 - 11/26/13 03:25 PM


Why such little scopes everyone? Can't see anything.

Get Big!


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LDW47
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Loc: North Bay,Ontario,Canada
Re: Grab and Go new [Re: Kraus]
      #6217576 - 11/26/13 04:33 PM

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Why such little scopes everyone? Can't see anything.

Get Big!


Most of us do but small is a good compliment to big on those nights when you don't want to lug them out / around !! Where have you been ?? That's what G & G is all about !!

Edited by LDW47 (11/26/13 04:38 PM)


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RobertED
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: LDW47]
      #6218176 - 11/26/13 09:42 PM

What about either Celestron Astromaster 90AZ refractor ....OR....the Celestron Cometron 114AZ reflector?????

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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: RobertED]
      #6218199 - 11/26/13 09:51 PM

I could carry this out with one hand...



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gene 4181
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: Pinbout]
      #6218464 - 11/27/13 12:20 AM

illinois has an ed 127 es. on a az 4 with the alum. legs above in picture. gives ya an idea what it'll carry.

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Jon Isaacs
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: gene 4181]
      #6218633 - 11/27/13 05:27 AM

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illinois has an ed 127 es. on a az 4 with the alum. legs above in picture. gives ya an idea what it'll carry.




People used to put 8 inch Newtonians on CG-5's with the aluminum legs... In my experience, a stiff tripod is the first step when it comes to achieving a solid mount that is free of vibration.

Jon


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gene 4181
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #6220352 - 11/27/13 09:37 PM

i know john. i was just highlighting the mount that ldw 47 bought for his antares 102. the fact that a 127 ed was used on it. acceptable, not perfect. i've used a 150 orion mct on that mount, i got along with it . but i' m used to pushing tubes.

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LDW47
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Reged: 03/04/12

Loc: North Bay,Ontario,Canada
Re: Grab and Go new [Re: gene 4181]
      #6220541 - 11/27/13 11:34 PM

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i know john. i was just highlighting the mount that ldw 47 bought for his antares 102. the fact that a 127 ed was used on it. acceptable, not perfect. i've used a 150 orion mct on that mount, i got along with it . but i' m used to pushing tubes.


That 127 is a lot bigger than my 102 Antares so I think it is safe to assume that the aluminum leg model will be more than enough for my purposes ! But I will do a quick comparison when they come into the shop and before one leaves with me !!

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Qwickdraw
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: LDW47]
      #6220859 - 11/28/13 08:10 AM Attachment (28 downloads)

I was seriously considering selling this to the point that it is still listed in the classified but I kind of fell in love with the thing and now I want to keep it. It is a beautiful 1982 Meade model 1037. The OTA/mount configuration seems very rare from what I can tell. The mount is solid and sturdy for it's size. It is a 4" F/10 SCT. I just purchased this scope from the original owner who purchased it in 1982. The primary could use a re-coating and I think I am going to make the investment.

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RobertED
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Re: Grab and Go new [Re: RobertED]
      #6220922 - 11/28/13 09:01 AM

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What about either Celestron Astromaster 90AZ refractor ....OR....the Celestron Cometron 114AZ reflector?????




.....gee, NO comments!!! I guess that answers my question!!!


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Glen A W
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Reged: 07/04/08

Loc: USA
Re: Grab and Go new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #6221034 - 11/28/13 10:11 AM

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illinois has an ed 127 es. on a az 4 with the alum. legs above in picture. gives ya an idea what it'll carry.




People used to put 8 inch Newtonians on CG-5's with the aluminum legs... In my experience, a stiff tripod is the first step when it comes to achieving a solid mount that is free of vibration.

Jon




I use a ten inch on one all the time. It's not toooo bad.


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