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Bill Grass
Prince Regent
Reged: 10/07/03
Posts: 11652
Loc: Denham Springs, LA
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Deal!
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Scott Beith
SRF
Reged: 11/26/03
Posts: 33107
Loc: Gulfport, MS
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Scott
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  Scott
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell
"The measure of a man’s greatness is not determined by what he accomplishes for himself, but by what he accomplishes for others.” -- Some Bald Guy
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Spyke
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 07/22/03
Posts: 1946
Loc: Scotland
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Hey, wait up- do you need a driver? 
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Equinox 120 
GSO 8" f6 Dob (Hi-Lux coated)
ED100 Pro, ED80
Skymax 127 Maksutov
Vixen GP, Porta-mount, multiple AZ-3 mounts.
Berkut 10x50 Binos, 'reasonable' no. of eyepieces
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Gardner
professor emeritus
Reged: 01/19/04
Posts: 641
Loc: New Hampshire
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Hey Spyke, pick me up on the way, you'll be going right by New Hampshire!
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Mini Borg 50 & Q-Guide
SV80S #87
TV 102 #1022
XT8
NHAS
http://mysite.verizon.net/gdgerry/
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Bill Grass
Prince Regent
Reged: 10/07/03
Posts: 11652
Loc: Denham Springs, LA
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We're getting a lot of people involved to split up this guy's equipment!
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Tom L
Reged: 01/07/04
Posts: 29817
Loc: Sunny Oregon
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I hope he doesn't know you're coming! Does he have guns?
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Tom 
Tele Vue 102mm f/8.6 on an EzTouch
Vixen 80mm f/5 A80SSWT on a grab-n-go mount
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jrcrilly
Refractor wienie again
Reged: 04/30/03
Posts: 22479
Loc: NE Ohio
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All my TV eyepieces are from Taiwan.
I recently picked up a few "classic" Japanese TV's (12, 16, and 20mm Type 2's and 40mm Widefield) but most of mine (Type 4's, Type 5's, and Panoptics) are Taiwan-sourced also.
I've seen later T2's and Widefields that were from Taiwan. I believe all the T4's and T5's are post-Japan.
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John C
Urban Observatory
Tele Vue Pronto
A&M/Astreya 76mm F/6 APO
TMB/LOMO 80mm F/7.5 APO
Tak FSQ-106N F/5 APO
Meade 152ED F/9 "APO"
152mm F/10 achromat
Tak CN-212 8" F/12 classical Cass/ F/4 Newt
Teeter 20" F/3.8 truss Newt w/ServoCat
LXD750, EM-200, CI-700
ST-10XME
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Anonymous
Unregistered
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I hope he doesn't know you're coming! Does he have guns?
Yeah, he's got guns...he's got Al's Nagler 6T which is regarded as the hand grenade!!! 
Mike
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Craig L
sage
Reged: 05/10/03
Posts: 353
Loc: London, Ontario, Canada
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i don't know of anybody that knows exactly who makes TV's plossls. all televue will say is that their manufacturer makes TV's exclusively. it's like it's some kind of dark secret (and it allows them to charge way too much for their products!).
Well, you sometimes do get what you pay for. Al Nagler's design for the Plosssl is an improvement on the standard plossl model, and the lens coatings are visibly superior. Whether the improvements (and warranty - you can send any Televue product back to them for repair) are worth the extra $$ is up to the individual. Personally, My view is that the prices for TV products are fair. The marketplace certainly thinks so. Take the Nagler Type 6 line for instance: 82º AFOV, sharp and well-corrected images, for $280 retail ($235 or less used). That's a heck of a bargain. Keep in mind that TV products are original designs. Not to slag Orion, because they offer great value to the astronomy community, but they are strictly a re-branding importer and can offer a lower $$ based on the economies of scale via selling products that are mass-produced in Asia and that others sell as well. TV has exclusivity agrrements with their manufacturers in order to control quality and I assume keep their designs proprietary.
Cheers,
- Craig
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7x50, 20x80
Maxscope 40
90mm f13.8 ETX
102mm f8 AP APO
13.1" f4.5 Dob
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Craig L
sage
Reged: 05/10/03
Posts: 353
Loc: London, Ontario, Canada
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...I should point out that one EP that I regretted selling a while back was an Orion 17mm Sirius Plossl. For my old 8" f6 dob, it was a perfect EP in terms of AFOV, light throughput and eye-relief. I also own an Orion SVP GEM and an Orion cheshire. I do own a case full of ~15 TV products, plus a smattering of Pentax and Antares. Regarding another post in this thread, please, please, PLEASE don't tell my wife what the replacement costs are! As an aside, my evil brother called me this week. He's the bad guy that got me hooked on wide FOV's by giving me a 12mm NT2 about three years ago .The conversation went like this:
"Want a new eyepiece?" he says.
"Not in the budget right now...whatcha got?" the devil on my left shoulder says as it kicks the backside of the angel on my right.
"31mm Nagler" he said in the deadpan tone of a character in a bad Mickey Spillane detective paperback.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Which is code for" "Yes! YES! OH YESSSSSS!!!!!!")
I am in deep $#!+
- Craig
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7x50, 20x80
Maxscope 40
90mm f13.8 ETX
102mm f8 AP APO
13.1" f4.5 Dob
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