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Asbytec
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      #6253875 - 12/15/13 05:29 AM Attachment (61 downloads)

Okay, most other folks have done one, so I grabbed a quick sketch while waiting for Jupiter to rise. Half moon was half way across the sky. Man, it's a difficult nebula to get right. So much to see, like tiny dark rifts and faint outer wings. Indistinct glow.

This was originally done as a pencil sketch on regular bond paper, photographed, colors inverted, then imported into Sketch-paint to add nebula, darken the background, and tighten up the stars. You can still see some pencil lines, but I was making it up as I went along. I just could not recreate the sketch on a blank canvas without the pencil guide lines.

Most of the sketch was at about 100x, but up to 320x to get a good look at the brighter portion and E and F. The brighter core is a complex of lights and darks, so just a few representative dust lanes will have to do.

Edited by Asbytec (12/15/13 05:52 AM)


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Re: M42 new [Re: Asbytec]
      #6254243 - 12/15/13 11:06 AM

Norme,

This is a very nice capture. It is one of those targets that takes several nights to get all the detail you can see and when you change magnification to higher power the detail increases. you have nicely captured the essence which is what sketching is all about. Well done.

Frank


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Asbytec
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Re: M42 new [Re: frank5817]
      #6254270 - 12/15/13 11:17 AM

I'm honored, Frank. Thank you.

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Re: M42 new [Re: Asbytec]
      #6254710 - 12/15/13 03:53 PM

Norme,
Just great work. It looks beautiful


Ken


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Asbytec
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Re: M42 new [Re: kenrenard]
      #6255091 - 12/15/13 07:40 PM

Thank you, Ken. Sorry I cannot remember, have you tried it? If not...

It's pretty tough, so much detail as Frank says. I never wanted to take it on, but one night, "what the heck. Where's my pencil?" It was made more difficult by using a white LED light to see the sketch, too.

Some folks do a fine job with this one. It wasn't bad on paper, but trying to replicate it in a PC paint program proved disastrous. Just ugly...so I photographed it and went from there. It's the only way to get the dimensions close.

So, it was tough on many levels, from observing the impossible detail it offers, loosing night vision with a white light LED, the moon being out, and even finishing it.


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Re: M42 new [Re: Asbytec]
      #6255120 - 12/15/13 08:02 PM

Superbly done Norme!!! Surprised you broke form s d did this and it was well worth it as the rests are really representative. Nice smooth glow - well done!!!

Pete


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Re: M42 new [Re: azure1961p]
      #6255419 - 12/15/13 10:48 PM

Very nice, Norme. I'm still working on my dso technique, and simply don't feel ready to share it with anyone. This is quite good for a "quick effort". More, please!

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Re: M42 new [Re: Chopin]
      #6255423 - 12/15/13 10:52 PM

I think I might make a go of that central region - draw it here in my light polluted yard , then another night go the local dark site. The difference is startling - if that dark site is what it should be mag 6 - maybe a hair better compared to my local mag 4.5-5.

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Re: M42 new [Re: azure1961p]
      #6255468 - 12/15/13 11:26 PM

Pete, after having done one, I think everyone should. It's like jumping off a 100' cliff into a deep river. Hesitant at first, but it's easy once it's over.

Jason, thank you. You have the skills to make it happen. Above was a free online paint program that does pretty good stuff (sketch-paint.exe). You probably have the right tools. Go for it! If it's anything like your previous work, how can it be bad enough not to post?


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Re: M42 new [Re: Asbytec]
      #6257473 - 12/17/13 02:54 AM

Yessir!

This is just about what I can detect using an 8mm EP.

Bravo, Norme!



-stray-


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Re: M42 new [Re: stray1]
      #6257531 - 12/17/13 05:48 AM

Thank you, Mark. There's a bright wisp missing further out on one of the wings to the west. Either I didn't notice it or it's not as bright as it looks. Gotta try to see it after the moon passes.

Edited by Asbytec (12/17/13 05:55 AM)


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Re: M42 new [Re: Asbytec]
      #6257571 - 12/17/13 06:58 AM

Uh oh, now that I am sitting in a dark room, I realize I left too much white in the outer nebula. I tried to use a transparent black to draw the black background into the nebula to get a smooth transition and darkening the background. But I left too much white in the background. I always leave the brighter part of the nebula brighter because everyone's monitor is different.

I enlarged the original canvas to try to capture more outlying nebula in a few days after the moon passes. When I painted those canvas extensions black, the border contrast really stood out showing the nebula background was not blacked out well enough. Not getting it all leaves the wrong impression of nebula not seen.

I apologize and feel kind of embarrassed. So, go easy.

Edited by Asbytec (12/17/13 07:03 AM)


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Re: M42 new [Re: Asbytec]
      #6259985 - 12/18/13 12:21 PM

Norme,

Good sketch of M-42 .

CS,KLU,

,

Tom


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Re: M42 new [Re: niteskystargazer]
      #6260207 - 12/18/13 02:24 PM

Oh wow Norme, that's really incredible!
So finely captured I can't believe.
Exquisit sketch, admirable!


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Re: M42 new [Re: Mert]
      #6260323 - 12/18/13 03:19 PM

Great work! Fine sketch!
M42 is my eternal favorite!


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Re: M42 new [Re: Tamas Bognar]
      #6260351 - 12/18/13 03:34 PM

Good work with M42

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Asbytec
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Re: M42 new [Re: Rutilus]
      #6260789 - 12/18/13 07:26 PM

Thank you all. It's a little brighter than I wished it to turn out, but I'll leave it. Looking forward to the next no moon night to add some fainter detail to the outer nebula, if at all possible to see it.

It's a tough nebula to get right, but now that it's done...I think everyone should do one.


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Re: M42 new [Re: Asbytec]
      #6270184 - 12/24/13 09:07 AM

Oh, what a beautiful sketch...

Andre


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Re: M42 new [Re: Andrev]
      #6270557 - 12/24/13 12:19 PM

Beautiful sketch, nice catch of the e and f trap stars, that 6 Mak is quite a performer.

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