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GLR GROUP
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Reged: 03/22/04
Posts: 188
Loc: Cugliate Fabiasco,(VA) (ITALY)
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Hi Kenny. it's an excellent review, Thanks! Piergiovanni
-------------------- [url] www.binomania.it [/url] you can find many binoculars reviews!
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KennyJ
   
Reged: 04/27/03
Posts: 10163
Loc: Lancashire UK
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Hello Pier !
Good to hear from you again.
I thought you were still fast asleep !
Thanks for the nice comment,
Kenny
-------------------- If everyone is thinking the same thing , no-one is thinking - General George S.Patton
Zeiss 7 x 42 BGAT
Captain's Helmsman 7 x 50
Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E
Swift Audubon Kestrel 10 x 50
Helios 15 x 70 Observation
Strathspey 20 x 90
Televue 76 APO
Zeiss 85 Diascope
Helios 102 f5 refractor
Various eyepieces barlows tripods mounts etc.
Panasonic Lumix DMC - TZ5 digital camera
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Anonymous
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Kenny,
I'm new to this forum, but I find this link:
http://www.monkoptics.co.uk/Marine/nautilus.html
Do you think is the same bino?
And congratulations for your review.
Antonio - Sorry for my not so good English
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KennyJ
   
Reged: 04/27/03
Posts: 10163
Loc: Lancashire UK
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Antonio,
A welcome to Cloudy Nights as warm as those Spanish August nights !
Yes , that model you spotted at MONK optics DOES LOOK very similar to the Helmsman -- and MIGHT be identical ( and it IS in the same price bracket as BILL C. was suggesting for the USA market.
Of course , IDENTICAL TWINS does NOT ALWAYS equal identical character and personality !
On the other hand , some products marketed at greatly differing price points are in fact IDENTICAL !
By the way , having just spent MANY hours over the past ten days and nights enjoying the relaxed views through this Helmsman 7 x 50 , I continue to be either baffled by the baffling or simply amazed at how BLACK the blackness of surround is , and intrigued by how the exceptional contrast seems to ridicule all the theory that lower exit - pupil models ought to be superior in that respect.
The only explanation I can come up with which would not outrage all the " experts " is that perhaps MY pupils are dilated to around 7mm whether I look through binoculars in DAYLIGHT or at night :-)
Regards to all , Kenny
-------------------- If everyone is thinking the same thing , no-one is thinking - General George S.Patton
Zeiss 7 x 42 BGAT
Captain's Helmsman 7 x 50
Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E
Swift Audubon Kestrel 10 x 50
Helios 15 x 70 Observation
Strathspey 20 x 90
Televue 76 APO
Zeiss 85 Diascope
Helios 102 f5 refractor
Various eyepieces barlows tripods mounts etc.
Panasonic Lumix DMC - TZ5 digital camera
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Anonymous
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Kenny,
Thanks for your welcome.
About: "as warm as those Spanish August nights ! " my only coment is that today at 23:23 we are at 32º (89.6F for the american friends)
Well the good thing is that the sky is clear.
Antonio,
Sorry for my not so good English
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Swedpat
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Reged: 02/18/05
Posts: 1033
Loc: Boden, Sweden, Scandinavia
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Antonio,
What a paradise for an amateur astronomer to have warm nights and clear skies. If you don't then are terrorized by insects and mosquitos of course...
Here in Sweden the clearest skies appears mostly when it's cold (in north part of the country we are in total lack of starry sky the whole summer) and at winter when it's -30º it's usually a beautiful sky. The only advantage at those moments are that it's complete free from insects and mosquitos...the disadvantage is that it's too cold to get out and watch with binoculars...
Regards, Patric
-------------------- *2,3x40 Constellation View Wide-Bino
*Leupold 6x30 Yosemite
*Leupold Katmai 6x32
*Swarovski SLCNew 7x42B
*Bresser (Lidl) 10x50
*Oberwerk 11x70
*No name (Kunming) 15x70
*Scopos ED APO 66
*Meade 5000 26mm Plössl, Vixen LV 10/5mm
Psalm 19:2
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KennyJ
   
Reged: 04/27/03
Posts: 10163
Loc: Lancashire UK
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Antonio,
I wish I was there , at 30 - 32 degrees C at midnight !
It is now AFTER midnight in the UK -- Skies are CLEAR -- and it is around 14 degrees C ( 56 F ) outside .
In fact , THESE are very good conditions for northern England !
Time indeed to switch -off the PC and get out there !
Goodnight from England !
Kenny
-------------------- If everyone is thinking the same thing , no-one is thinking - General George S.Patton
Zeiss 7 x 42 BGAT
Captain's Helmsman 7 x 50
Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E
Swift Audubon Kestrel 10 x 50
Helios 15 x 70 Observation
Strathspey 20 x 90
Televue 76 APO
Zeiss 85 Diascope
Helios 102 f5 refractor
Various eyepieces barlows tripods mounts etc.
Panasonic Lumix DMC - TZ5 digital camera
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BillC
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Reged: 06/04/04
Posts: 2111
Loc: Washington, USA
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Quote:
Of course , IDENTICAL TWINS does NOT ALWAYS equal identical character and personality !Regards to all , Kenny
I'm crushed. Did no one think to ask me or think I would attempt to bend the truth. Excuse me while I go take my life in shame and embarrassment . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . GREAT!, saved by cowardice . . . again.
I had never seen the Monk product before, but I can guarantee it is the same IF it is Japanese. All bets are off if it is Chinese.
I had the option to buy either product.
Cheers,
Bill
-------------------- William J. Cook, Chief Opticalman, USNR-Ret.
Founding Editor, Amateur Telescope Making Journal
20-year vet. of Captain's Nautical Supplies, Optics Dept. Mgr.
Optics Machanic, WG11-3306, Ft. Lewis, Tacoma,WA
Yata, Yata, Yata . . .
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craig_oz_land
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Reged: 01/21/04
Posts: 343
Loc: Sydney, Australia
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Is this item still not available?
I did a search on Vendor announcements and on google to no avail.
c
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Bill Huot
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Reged: 08/07/05
Posts: 37
Loc: Victoria, BC, Canada
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I suppose that it is time to resurrect this thread. No need to change the title since now I've got a Captain's Helmsman 7X50 and can write my own mini-review.
My first impression, at the post office, was: "Sheesh, that's a big box for a pair of binos!" I suppose that it should have been: "Thank goodness that the box doesn't look all smashed up." Even if it had been, I suspect that the binos would have arrived in good condition. In addition to my new binos, I am now the proud owner of about a thousand pieces of ghost poop.
The binos themselves fully live up to the very high expectations that I developed from Kenny's review. They are big and heavy, but appear to be very well made, and the view is terrific!
In daytime use, they are bright, sharp and the depth of field is very impressive. I don't use binos with my eyeglasses on, but I tried them that way. The viewing was much more comfortable than any other binos I've tried this way and I could almost see the field stops. I might see if I can get used to it -- it would be nice not to have to keep taking my glasses off and then putting them on to read the charts.
Although the viewing conditions were mediocre, as soon as it got dark I took them up to the top of my dark hill. I brought my so-so Minolta 10X50 and my Fujinon 16X70 along too, with intentions of doing some comparisons for the Forum. Fat chance! I had so much fun with my new toy, hand-held and mounted, that I never took the others out of their cases. For that matter, I also never took my charts out of their case. I just played galactic tourist.
Based upon memory, not side by side comparison, my general impression is that the sharpness and edge performance are every bit as good as my Fujis. I've not had 7X before. Its nice to be able to hand-hold binos without being frustrated by dancing stars -- or at least, they don't dance around too much. With the 7.0 degree FoV I was almost able to fit all of the 6 major Lyra stars into view at the same time.
Of course, that FoV comes with a pricetag of low magnification. Mounted (on my Couch Potato Telescope), I wasn't able to see M57 (Ring Nebula) but it felt like it was just barely out of reach. Maybe with a darker sky I'll see that speck of fluff. I was able to split Albireo, but just barely. M13 (Hercules Cluster) was easy; M92 was barely there. For the most part, I would say that the strength of these binos is in looking at starfields and context, not individual objects.
The inexpertly-translated literature that came with them assures users that they are waterproof and have been tested to a depth of 3 metres. That being so, I wonder why they ship them with one of those little packets of silica gel.
Bill Cook has been very coy about telling us where these are made, and it doesn't say on the binos, on their box, or in the instruction sheet. Perhaps its a major trade secret. But I might have found a clue on the plastic bag that they were wrapped in. In addition to the English warning not to use the bag as a baby toy, the bag said: "ACHTUNG - DIESER BEUTEL IST KEIN SPIELZEIG." Of course, after testing them Bill might have just grabbed any bag that was handy, or he might have noticed that they were going to be shipped to me and purposely used that bag as a red herring knowing that I was likely to share this tidbit with everyone here.
The bottom line is that they are great binos and I'm really glad I got them.
I'm traveling to Central BC and Washington State for a brief vacation tomorrow, where the air may be dry and the skies may be dark. I should have more to add when I get back.
-------------------- Bill
Oberwerk 25X100IF; Garrett Signature 15X70
Captain's Helmsman 7X50; Minolta 10X50
Pentax Papilio 6.5X21
Couch Potato Binocular Mount
Manfrotto 503 mount / Acuter tripod (Gitzo clone)
Vixen fork mount / Manfroto 3246 tripod
William Optics Zenithstar 80
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BillC
on a new path
   
Reged: 06/04/04
Posts: 2111
Loc: Washington, USA
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>>>Bill Cook has been very coy about telling us where these are made<<<
As Rafiki would say: "Nope, wrong, again."
What I said was that I could not say WHO made them, not WHERE they were made.
I was given the option of getting the product made in either Japan or China. Unless the manufacturer lied, mine are made in Japan.
The manufacturer is the same as makes various binos for just about all the major Japanese bino companies. Anyone who really wants to search can find out who it is via the web.
However, 15 years ago, I was asked not to give out the name, and I intend to keep my word.
Cheers,
Bill
Edited by billcook (08/31/05 09:16 PM)
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Mark9473
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Quote:
I might have found a clue on the plastic bag that they were wrapped in. In addition to the English warning not to use the bag as a baby toy, the bag said: "ACHTUNG - DIESER BEUTEL IST KEIN SPIELZEIG."
Did you mean to imply that from the spelling error - SPIELZEIG instead of SPIELZEUG - they are definitely not made in Germany?
-------------------- Mark
Leica 8x20; Vixen 8x42; Swift 8.5x44, 10x50 and 20x80; TS 7x50; Orion 15x63
WO Megrez II 80 FD + Baader 90° T2 Amici
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KennyJ
   
Reged: 04/27/03
Posts: 10163
Loc: Lancashire UK
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Personally , I really don't care WHERE this binocular was made .
As I've said since I first looked through it , it is a very fine binocular .
IF it happened to be made in CHINA , then it is , by a considerable margin , the best advertisement for binoculars made in that country that I can vouch for .
It is a model with great " character " , and one which if I'd paid £200 UK for ( $320 US PLUS ) I would feel represented something akin to the " bargain of the century " .
Given the unique circumstances surrounding it's coming into my possession , it is truly priceless .
If I pass it on to any of my children , it will not be without a detailed explanation of how it came to be in my possession , and of how much I treasure it .
I don't " own " many material things , and probably never will , but in that regard , some words have already been written .
Kenny
-------------------- If everyone is thinking the same thing , no-one is thinking - General George S.Patton
Zeiss 7 x 42 BGAT
Captain's Helmsman 7 x 50
Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E
Swift Audubon Kestrel 10 x 50
Helios 15 x 70 Observation
Strathspey 20 x 90
Televue 76 APO
Zeiss 85 Diascope
Helios 102 f5 refractor
Various eyepieces barlows tripods mounts etc.
Panasonic Lumix DMC - TZ5 digital camera
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Steve Napier
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Reged: 05/10/04
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Hi,Is there a 10x50 Captain Helmsman? Steve.
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BillC
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Reged: 06/04/04
Posts: 2111
Loc: Washington, USA
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Nope.
Bill
-------------------- William J. Cook, Chief Opticalman, USNR-Ret.
Founding Editor, Amateur Telescope Making Journal
20-year vet. of Captain's Nautical Supplies, Optics Dept. Mgr.
Optics Machanic, WG11-3306, Ft. Lewis, Tacoma,WA
Yata, Yata, Yata . . .
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Robert Ellis
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Reged: 04/25/05
Posts: 166
Loc: Minneapolis, MN
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Hey Bill, I'd gladly give a pair a rundown for you. Smiley Smiley.
-------------------- Leupold Yosemite 6x30
Nikon Action 7x35
Nikon EII 8x30
Nikon EII 10x35
Nikon Monarch 10x36
Swift Audubon 804 8.5x44
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Steve Napier
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Thanks Bill,thats what I like,short and to the point. Steve.
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BillC
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Posts: 2111
Loc: Washington, USA
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And you KNOW you rarely get that from a blowhard like me, right! 
Cheers,
Bill
-------------------- William J. Cook, Chief Opticalman, USNR-Ret.
Founding Editor, Amateur Telescope Making Journal
20-year vet. of Captain's Nautical Supplies, Optics Dept. Mgr.
Optics Machanic, WG11-3306, Ft. Lewis, Tacoma,WA
Yata, Yata, Yata . . .
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Steve Napier
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A blowhard,isnt that a species of fish? Steve
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