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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: HfxObserver]
      #4985176 - 12/26/11 08:46 AM

Atlases, like telescopes, are to be USED in the field.
You can't have your cake and eat it too, so I tell people to buy one copy of something to use, and another copy to collect.


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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: HfxObserver]
      #4985424 - 12/26/11 12:08 PM

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Jerry, a spiral bound version would be very useful.

Rick, People keep asking if it's worth the purchase & what differences between the online versions? There is also the entertainment value for those who may enjoy reading about this book.

Regarding the binding, it's not falling apart, far from it, it's just showing signs of wear from use and it's accompanied me in the field for about 1/2 my sessions since the spring. Reading a book straight through then occasionally references it will show far less wear than one used frequently outside under night time conditions.

So my primary criticism is that it's so useful as an observing text mine shows signs of wear. There are many books on my shelf that appear like new but the Barnard & Dobek 2nd Ed has never made it onto the shelf!

-Chris




Thank you Chris! That one single comment makes all that work worth while. You have fulfilled MY deisire (as noted in the Foreword) for this Atlas.

Yes, Atlases are meant to be USED. And that is why I held to my convictions that it be printed with the Charts and Plates in their exact sizes: accuracy.

I hope that others will hear/read your words.

Cheers,

Jerry

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: burb scope]
      #4988004 - 12/28/11 06:24 AM

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Atlases, like telescopes, are to be USED in the field.
You can't have your cake and eat it too, so I tell people to buy one copy of something to use, and another copy to collect.







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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: edwincjones]
      #6598924 - 06/24/14 09:42 AM

The long wait is over.
I'm pleased to announce the release of a paperback version of Barnard's classic "A Photographic Atlas of Selected Regions of the Milky Way". Cambridge University Press has printed about 100 copies and is due for release in late August / early September 2014. The list price is $80 (USD), although I think the online bookstores are offering it for a little less. This paperback version will be the same size and format as the hardbound.

When this edition was first printed, CUP purchased an odd-sized paper, not normally used, for the printing of Barnard's Atlas. They printed about 700 copies of the hardbound Atlas, and have distributed nearly all copies. They have since printed another 100 of the hardbound and about 100 of the paperback version.

For those waiting for a lesser cost, or for something to use at the telescope, this paperback version may be a 'welcome addition'.

Cheers,

Jerry

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: GDN]
      #6599046 - 06/24/14 11:04 AM

So all told, in both editions, less than 1000 copies have been printed??

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #6599081 - 06/24/14 11:20 AM

Yes, less than 1 000 copies.

In sales recorded; 559 copies to date. This does not include samples, government holdings or others that would not be recorded as "sales". CUP has a few of the first run left, but decided to print another 100 hardbound. Printing about 100 paperbacks should use up the remaining run of over-sized paper they purchased just for this Atlas.

Cheers,

Jerry

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #6599091 - 06/24/14 11:25 AM

Great news! I just pre-ordered a copy from Amazon: $71.XX + tax.

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: Spaced]
      #6599339 - 06/24/14 01:17 PM

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Great news! I just pre-ordered a copy from Amazon: $71.XX + tax.




Yes, and another of the 100 sold to me.


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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: rockethead26]
      #6599520 - 06/24/14 03:03 PM

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Great news! I just pre-ordered a copy from Amazon: $71.XX + tax.




Yes, and another of the 100 sold to me.



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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: jhors]
      #6600112 - 06/24/14 08:41 PM

Is there a link? I couldn't find one

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: Daniel Mounsey]
      #6600124 - 06/24/14 08:47 PM

Amazon Link to Paperback Edition

It has an August 31, 2014 release date.


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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! [Re: jhors]
      #6600520 - 06/25/14 01:13 AM

thanks

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: Daniel Mounsey]
      #6602507 - 06/26/14 09:04 AM

I am just discovering this thread and the book. Looks like the book was printed in 2011? or 2010? So, are hardbound second editions available and where?

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: opticsguy]
      #6603030 - 06/26/14 02:57 PM

From the publisher.

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: opticsguy]
      #6603322 - 06/26/14 05:31 PM

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I am just discovering this thread and the book. Looks like the book was printed in 2011? or 2010? So, are hardbound second editions available and where?




This edition was published (call it 're-published') in the spring of 2011. There are still some hardbound editions available, from Cambridge University Press (CUP) as well as some from on-line vendors. Let me know if you need more info.
The paperback edition is due for release in late August or early September this year (2014). Same size and format as the hardbound edition.

Cheers,

Jerry

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: GDN]
      #6604857 - 06/27/14 05:07 PM

6 Hardbound copies remaining at Amazon (I just bought number 7 after seeing this thread again and remembering that I wanted to get it).
Thanks for the reminder, Jerry!


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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: bicparker]
      #6605742 - 06/28/14 10:46 AM

How to determine 1st and second editions? I see several hardbound books for sale online but no info on 1st or 2nd printing. I see a Publication date: 3/31/2011, is this first or second?

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: opticsguy]
      #6607211 - 06/29/14 11:04 AM

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How to determine 1st and second editions? I see several hardbound books for sale online but no info on 1st or 2nd printing. I see a Publication date: 3/31/2011, is this first or second?




The 1st (First) Edition was published in 1927. It contained two volumes; Plates and Descriptions, and Charts and Tables.

The 2nd (Second) Edition is a single volume (combining both into one) and is a 'Republished' printing. This is the one from Cambridge University Press (CUP) with a publication date of 2011. Only one 'Printing' to date.

Hope this helps to clarify. Let me know.

Cheers,

Jerry

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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: GDN]
      #6608301 - 06/29/14 10:26 PM

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How to determine 1st and second editions? I see several hardbound books for sale online but no info on 1st or 2nd printing. I see a Publication date: 3/31/2011, is this first or second?




The 1st (First) Edition was published in 1927. It contained two volumes; Plates and Descriptions, and Charts and Tables.

The 2nd (Second) Edition is a single volume (combining both into one) and is a 'Republished' printing. This is the one from Cambridge University Press (CUP) with a publication date of 2011. Only one 'Printing' to date.

Hope this helps to clarify. Let me know.

Cheers,

Jerry

G.O.Dobek, FRAS




This is confusing, as earlier you posted " They have since printed another 100 of the hardbound and about 100 of the paperback version." Isn't that a second printing of the second edition? I think this is what "Opticsguy" was referring to?

Edited by Wmacky (06/29/14 10:30 PM)


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Re: Barnard's dark nebula atlas on sale! new [Re: Wmacky]
      #6608767 - 06/30/14 09:04 AM

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Quote:

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How to determine 1st and second editions? I see several hardbound books for sale online but no info on 1st or 2nd printing. I see a Publication date: 3/31/2011, is this first or second?




The 1st (First) Edition was published in 1927. It contained two volumes; Plates and Descriptions, and Charts and Tables.

The 2nd (Second) Edition is a single volume (combining both into one) and is a 'Republished' printing. This is the one from Cambridge University Press (CUP) with a publication date of 2011. Only one 'Printing' to date.

Hope this helps to clarify. Let me know.

Cheers,

Jerry

G.O.Dobek, FRAS




This is confusing, as earlier you posted " They have since printed another 100 of the hardbound and about 100 of the paperback version." Isn't that a second printing of the second edition? I think this is what "Opticsguy" was referring to?




Since this Edition, 2011, has never really gone 'out of print' from CUP, all of these are considered First Printing Editions. We decided to print 700 in the initial run, not knowing how this Atlas would be received or how many would be sold. It has done so well, and there was interest in printing a soft-bound (paperback) version, that CUP has decided to print 100 copies of the paperback and another 100 copies of the hardbound version. This will probably use up all the 'odd-sized paper' that CUP purchased to print this Atlas. After these First Printing Atlases are sold out, it is undetermined whether or not a Second Printing will occur. IF a Second Printing is done in the future, I do not know if CUP would be willing to continue to purchase the 'odd-sized paper' necessary to print the Atlas without down-sizing the pages. IF the pages are down-sized to fit the standard sized paper, the Atlas would not remain accurate.

Hope this clears things up. Let me know.

Cheers,

Jerry

G.O.Dobek, FRAS


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