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Willy
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The Messier Album.
      #67740 - 03/08/04 03:28 PM

I recently picked up a copy of this book by Mallas & Kreimer in a second hand bookshop.Although it's a very good book, I find Kreimer's sketches a little 'Fanciful' considering he was using a 4" refractor.I found myself wondering whether there was something wrong with my own 4" refractor!!!
Has anyone else seen this book?
Cheers. John.

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John.
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4" Helios refractor f9.8
8" Skywatcher dob/eq f6
West Highland White terrier.


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Re: The Messier Album. new [Re: Willy]
      #68147 - 03/09/04 07:44 AM

I've borrowed a copy. I'd agree that the drawings are fanciful from the UK with damp skies and light pollution. Mallas was viewing in dry air in California - so the Sagittarius objects are much further over the horizon.

However his M42 drawings don't look too implausible. What I need is dark skies.

If you want really implausible, try O'Meara's Messier Deep Sky Guide.


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Bob Pasken
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Re: The Messier Album. new [Re: ]
      #68215 - 03/09/04 10:29 AM

I have used the Mallas and Kreimer book for more than twenty-years. I don't find the drawings to far from the truth, however, I can say that as time has past the drawings are looking less and less like what I see. IMHO the real problem is light pollution. When I started observing I could see much fainter stars with my naked eye than I can now. From my observing logs I note that I could see 6.2mag stars and take a 5 min piggyback exposure from my parent home in upstate New York. On a very clear night last summer the best I could see in a grey murking sky was 4.5. I can see m97 from my home in Saint Louis with my Q4, but taking the Q4 to Rocky Mountain Parks and the Big Horn sheep meadow m97 stands out like a sore thumb. Times are a'changin and not for the good.

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dc2861
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Re: The Messier Album. new [Re: ]
      #68727 - 03/10/04 12:10 AM

Quote:

If you want really implausible, try O'Meara's Messier Deep Sky Guide.




I'd have to disagree. Remember he's basically observing from Mauna Kea. Even through his 4" TV his seeing beats anything here in the lower 48. I was so impressed with his Messier book that I went out and picked up his Caldwell Objects as well. I'd be interested to know what you guys think of Turn Left at Orion. There's a copy in a second hand book shop that I skimmed through this morning.

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Darren

Celestron NexStar 9.25 GPS
Takahashi FS78
Nikon Action 10X50's
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Tom L

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Re: The Messier Album. new [Re: dc2861]
      #68761 - 03/10/04 01:40 AM

This newb likes Turn Left at Orion

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Tom
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Willy
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Re: The Messier Album. new [Re: Tom L]
      #68809 - 03/10/04 05:02 AM

Bob, You have probably hit the nail on the head regarding light pollution,but where I live in rural Lincolnshire it's not a problem for me.It could be the difference in quality between his refractor and mine or even visual acuity.
John.

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John.
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8" Skywatcher dob/eq f6
West Highland White terrier.


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