Richard B. Drumm
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 07/14/05
Posts: 1482
Loc: Albemarle Co. Virginia
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All:
This thread is just a convenient place for me to post the results of the list of PST serial numbers I've been collecting. It is NOT intended as a means of bashing any manufacturer, really is isn't! It's for informational purposes only. This way we can request the serial # from a seller on A-mart or wherever, and have some confidence in the scope we recieve.
I'll update with edits this first post until the system won't let me edit it, then I'll scroll down and make a new posting of the list.
Thanks to everyone who has participated, together we can make a difference!
Rich
As of Nov. 19th, 2006:
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94606 sick - Gary Meehan "AXAF" in Boston
94991 sick - David "ad701xx" in Oregon
95104 was blue, now gold - Tom Lawson "Guner" in NJ - repaired twice!
95166 sick - James Suarez "Jim7728" in NY - the old one.
95424 sick - Julio Cesar in Madrid - before repair
96367 sick - "Zoomster" in Fla.- now repaired.
96714 sick, repaired, sick again! Darren Hiebert in Alabama
97148 sick - Bill Leslie "bill-in-forres" Scotland
97449 not sick yet, blue - Steve Durham in NY
97468 sick - Bruce "Carpe Noctum" in Cal., returned, lost by Meade, replaced.
97491 gold - Daniel in Illinois
98131 not sick yet, blue/transparent - Gustavo Phols in Mexico
98670 sick & gold ! "Davo" in Scotland
98773 sick - Gregor(slo) in Slovenia
98994 sick - Steve "molniyabeer" in Italia
99309 sick - Michelle "JARSHEART" in Fla.
99335 sick - Kelly "Trombone"
99493 sick - Adrian Guzman "solmax" - repaired with blue glass.
99760 sick - (brand new in the box) - Steven Kim "kimsc321"
99807 sick - "Ike"
100054 sick - Ben Ritchie in Bosham, UK
100360 sick - Rick in Tokyo
100658 sick - Jim from NJ Night Sky
100706 gold - Ed Kessler in PA
100727 gold - Bill K. "SprintCar Driver"
100922 gold - justin2992 in Philly
100942 gold - LBartolomei
101040 gold - "jgraham" in Ohio
101147 gold - Julio Cesar's friend Oriol in Barcelona
101168 gold - Julio Cesar's replacement PST
101230 gold - me
101337 gold - chemkelly
101369 blue - James Suarez "Jim7728" in NY - the new one.
101680 blue - Bill "Bonco" in Fla.
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The first group are the ones that had the problem. Blue lenses, one transparent...
The second group are the gold ones.
The last group are the new type, with blue lenses (either transparent or opaque???)
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Orion Atlas 10 (10" Newt on an equatorial mount)
Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
IOTA member
38° 10' 57"N, 78° 23' 09"W
Edited by Erix (11/19/06 11:07 PM)
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Jim7728
Postmaster
Reged: 04/10/05
Posts: 5060
Loc: Stoop Landing Observatory, NYC
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Good job!, Rich.
Maybe Erika can add this thread to the "sick PST" stickie at the top of the forum.
I just want to add that Meade/Coronado seems to be "stepping up" in working this problem out with the new clear blue objective design, no questions asked as far as proof of purchase and paying for the shipping both ways(at least for those in CONUS). Also the latest repaired one's seem to be in good order. Hopefully, those who had problems getting thier PST's fixed are getting those issues resolved.
Of course I'll let everyone know how my old one turns out, once I get it back.
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Jim
TV-60/40mm Ha-5mm BF
FS-102 and other tubes...
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badsnoopy
One star is enough
Reged: 12/20/04
Posts: 3556
Loc: La Porte, IN
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Very nice job.
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Robert
TV Genesis SDF
Losmandy G11
10x14 Roll roof observatory
Lumenera SkyNyx 2-2m
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kimsc321
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Reged: 01/22/06
Posts: 56
Loc: New Milford, NJ
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Hi Richard and all,
Last Sunday, I've went into Adorama in NYC to buy a new PST. This time I personally wanted to inspect the scope before purchase. It looked great w/ bluish-clear objective. Looked like newer model and the certificate confirmed it showing Oct. 2006. So I bought the scope w/ big smile on my face  . Next day as my wife was test driving the new scope, she discovers a cluster of "tiny bubbles" in the middle of the objective  . Yes, we've decided to return this as well. I'm sorry, I forgot to write down the serial # before return it  . However, I do remember it was like #102xxx. I can call them up on Sunday 12th and find out if you wish.
I've attached a pix showing the bubbles.
One more thing. I've noticed this "bubbled" scope had a serial # outside of the box so that salesman can check the # before opening the box. My first one from Discovery Store did not. Only way was to open the box and check either by looking at the side of the scope or the certificate.
Again, thanx for this list. It's a valueable list for new and old buyers. I wonder how long this list will become!.
Steven
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Richard B. Drumm
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 07/14/05
Posts: 1482
Loc: Albemarle Co. Virginia
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Steven:
Too bad about the PST, too bad 'bout the serial # too! If you can get it that's cool, you might need it yourself! The list is narrowing down the start # for the gold objectives, and the end of the gold ones as well.
Rich
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Orion Atlas 10 (10" Newt on an equatorial mount)
Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
IOTA member
38° 10' 57"N, 78° 23' 09"W
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DAVIDG
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 12/02/04
Posts: 1962
Loc: Hockessin, De
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I don't think that the bubbles are the same problem as the "rust" They look to be a common problem when you cement a lens together. You have be careful to place the two lens halves together just right or you can get the bubbles. In any case Quality Control should have caught the problem.
- Dave
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Homemade 'scopes 8"f/7,6" f/5", 6"f/4, 4.25" Schief. 60mm Coronagraph,60mm H-alpha system, 4.25" White-light Solar Newtonian,solar spectroscope, 4.5" f/16 Schupmann Medial refractor, 14 Stellafane awards 7 in optics
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kimsc321
member
Reged: 01/22/06
Posts: 56
Loc: New Milford, NJ
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Yes, Dave. This is a new QC problem. I don't know if this "bubbles" can be seen on the old or gold objective models but, it is apparent in the clear bluish newer models. I recommend all of you to re-inspect your scopes every angle under sun-light......
Just to recap:: My first purchased PST from Discovery Store had about 70% "rust" right out of the box-see serial #99760.
When the new shipment comes in I'll update you all.
Richard: I'll find out the serial # tomorrow.
By the way, for all the locals who lives around NYC area, I had an excellent service w/ Adorama especially salesman name David F. Note: This was my first business w/ them. I'm not affiliated w/ Adorama just a satisfied customer.
Steven
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meade lx200gps 8in
celestron 102
denkII
toucam
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molniyabeer
Confused and Asleep
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Posts: 2543
Loc: Central Coast, California
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Quote:
I just want to add that Meade/Coronado seems to be "stepping up" in working this problem out with the new clear blue objective design, no questions asked as far as proof of purchase and paying for the shipping both ways(at least for those in CONUS).
What shipping method is are they paying for if you are CONUS? I can use USPS Priority Mail over here for the same price as if Stateside. Or are they insisting on things like UPS/FedEx?
Thanks for the updates. Clear skies.
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Steve
16" Meade LightBridge (Beowulf)
10" Hardin DSH, StarMax 127mm Mak, PST H-a
Oberwerk 11 x 70 binocs, Tasco 10 x 50 binocs
Santa Maria Clear Sky Clock
Figueroa Mt Clear Sky Clock
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Jim7728
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Loc: Stoop Landing Observatory, NYC
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Quote:
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I just want to add that Meade/Coronado seems to be "stepping up" in working this problem out with the new clear blue objective design, no questions asked as far as proof of purchase and paying for the shipping both ways(at least for those in CONUS).
What shipping method is are they paying for if you are CONUS? I can use USPS Priority Mail over here for the same price as if Stateside. Or are they insisting on things like UPS/FedEx?
United Parcel Service is picking up my PST. If your're paying for the shipping to the United States, I don't think it matters who you use.
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Jim
TV-60/40mm Ha-5mm BF
FS-102 and other tubes...
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AXAF
sage
Reged: 09/15/04
Posts: 233
Loc: New England
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Quote:
All:
This thread is just a convenient place for me to post the results of the list of PST serial numbers I've been collecting.
Let me add my serial number. It is 94606. My PST still has the rust condition on it. I'm holding off on letting Meade touch it. I get the sense that they have a bit of a learning curve to go through before they develop the necessary skill to repair these PSTs consistently well.
It looks like I have the dubious honor of being #1 on the list now!
Great idea, Rich!
Gary
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Torus Optics 32cm f/6 Dob
Osypowski Equatorial Platform
Fujinon 10x70
Coronado PST plus SolarMax 40 filter
Vixen GPD2 on a Berlebach Tripod
StellarVue SV90T
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Ike
member
Reged: 11/10/06
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I just wanted to add my PST to the list I checked it tonight and the objective is all blotchy serial number 99807
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Carpe Noctum
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 05/22/05
Posts: 1500
Loc: Morada, CA
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My PST s/n was 97468. Returned, repaired, lost by Meade and replaced by Meade.
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Bruce
AP 140 7.5 Starfire EDF I love that new scope smell!
Stellarvue SV130
Stellarvue SV80S
Takahashi EM-400 Temma II
DM6 mount w/Sky Commander XP4
ST2000XCM CFW-9 & Astrodons
PST double stacked
Lunt LS100F DS filters
Denk II Binoviewer w/PxS
Project Astro visiting astronomer
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JARSHEART
super member
Reged: 02/09/06
Posts: 159
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL
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Extremely sick, blue, shipped from Coronado 10/19/05. Purchased from OPT 3/30/06
SN 99309
Michelle
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Meade 8" LX200 GPS UHTC
Meade ETX 70-AT
PST DS
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jgraham
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Reged: 12/02/04
Posts: 6695
Loc: Dayton, Ohio
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I bought mine this past June. SN:101040. Gold lens, so far so good.
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-John
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Homebuilt scopes from 4.25-16.5"
Meade LXD75-N6/SN6/SC8, DSX-90, ETX-60BB, ETX-125PE, DS-2130
Orion StarBlast, BinoViewers, Coronado PST
Rebel XT/XTi, DSI Pro (I, II, & III), DSI, LPI, Electronic Eyepiece, Phillips SPC900NC
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Richard B. Drumm
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Reged: 07/14/05
Posts: 1482
Loc: Albemarle Co. Virginia
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Michelle:
Sorry to hear 'bout your PST. I hope you can get it serviced quickly.
Thanks for the SN#!
jgraham:
Thanks for your SN# as well, I'll get Erika to update the list on top of the page!
Rich
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Orion Atlas 10 (10" Newt on an equatorial mount)
Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
IOTA member
38° 10' 57"N, 78° 23' 09"W
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Zoomster
professor emeritus
Reged: 01/30/05
Posts: 694
Loc: Tampa FL
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Mine is serial number 96367 and had the original lens become sick, has since been repaired and is working better than ever.
Zoomster
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Celestron CPC 1100 aka "The Marino"
Moonlite Dual Rate Focuser
WO Dielecric Diagonal
Denkmeier "Big Easy" Binos and assorted eyepieces.
Coranado PST
SPC900NC...not modded...yet. (eh-eh)
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rsbfoto
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regards Rainer
Edited by Erix (11/19/06 12:41 AM)
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Richard B. Drumm
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 07/14/05
Posts: 1482
Loc: Albemarle Co. Virginia
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Hola, Rainer!
I'm sorry to see the rust in your lens! Not good!
I see also the red paint on the threads and that both of them have the red paint.... Is this to keep things from unscrewing?
What's with the scratched up hole? It just looks like sloppy workmanship.
I've never heard of a BF30, who makes it?
Rich
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Orion Atlas 10 (10" Newt on an equatorial mount)
Celestron 15x70 SkyMaster Binocs
Coronado Ha PST
President, Charlottesville Astronomical Society
IOTA member
38° 10' 57"N, 78° 23' 09"W
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Erix
Toad Lily
Reged: 12/25/04
Posts: 22302
Loc: Ohio, USA
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BF30 is a blocking filter, Rich. http://www.coronadofilters.com/products_blocking.html
Rainer, did you drill that hole in it? 
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Erika
Automatic doors make me feel like a Jedi. 
10" LX200 Classic, ETX70-AT, DS Maxscope 60mm, 12" Truss Dob, Orion ED80
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rsbfoto
sage
Reged: 06/10/06
Posts: 341
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Hi Erika and Richard,
Those BF 30 are the blocking filter which give you 30mm of circular view through field.
No I did not drill the hole, they are there and there are 2 of them in order you can turn them for srewing them into the 2" barrel. The BF 30 does have 2 of the blocking filters.
Yes the red paint is in order to avoid a turning of the filter insets in the barrel. As they ahve 2 of them and they have to be arranged in a precise direction in order to avoid ghosting.
One of the BF30 came with a loose inner filter and gave me a huge quantity of ghosts when using it. So I had to adjust it myself by pure trial and error until I found out how to avoid the ghosting.
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regards Rainer
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