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astrovale
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11029 a few hours ago.
      #3416056 - 10/28/09 12:52 PM Attachment (219 downloads)

Hi guys,

today the seeing was not as good as the day before yesterday. SO the aperture is limited to 140mm, but focal is still 5000mm. I could have gone down to 2500, but what the hell! Once we have something to image might as well try to go the whole nine yards

Here is a reduced version and here:
http://www.amun-ra.org/NOAA_HA/11029/NOAA11029_10282009_UTC1029.jpg is the whole enchilada!

Luca

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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: astrovale]
      #3416131 - 10/28/09 01:29 PM

Absolutely beautiful, Luca!

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Evokal
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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: cuwohler]
      #3416172 - 10/28/09 01:54 PM

It's been cloudy here for 2 days now, and you show me the AR better than I could ever see it with my LS60DS! Thanks to you Luca (and all of the amazingly talented imagers in this forum) I'm not missing a thing! Many thanks.

Michael

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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: cuwohler]
      #3416175 - 10/28/09 01:54 PM

Excellent again!

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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: pjr200]
      #3416179 - 10/28/09 01:55 PM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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old_frankland
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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: cuwohler]
      #3416198 - 10/28/09 02:01 PM

Luca, this is specatular!

Being a relative newbie to solar observing, especially H-alpha, I have a few questions regarding what I am looking at. To my untrained eye, I can see what I interpret as the leading sunspot in 11029, and its penumbra. If this is true, then I am seeing features on the photosphere, through the chromosphere....right?

The fine spicules (sp) at upper left appears to be directly over the smaller trailing spots. Can anyone explain them? Or, the bright filamentary structure between the lead spot and the smaller trailing spots?

Thanks!

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astrovale
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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: old_frankland]
      #3416589 - 10/28/09 05:56 PM

Hi,

alas I don't think I can explain what you ask Jim: I'm just like one of those guys who draw pictures to illustrate anatomy books without being doctors!
However, I believe you are right about seeing photospheric features through the chromosphere. I have images, where the penumbra is even more evident (http://www.amun-ra.org/NOAA_HA/10969/NOAA10969_082507_1001.jpg). If you can visualize cross-vision 3D images and want to really see the penumbra, check what J-P Metsavaino has done with that same picture: truly mind-blowing! Here:
http://www.amun-ra.org/NOAA_HA/10969/NOAA109690708Cross.jpg

Ciao
Luca

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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: astrovale]
      #3416765 - 10/28/09 07:20 PM

Top banana!!!

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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: marktownley]
      #3417435 - 10/29/09 12:21 AM

Are you sure you aren't taking pictures from a vehicle in space? Breathtaking image with fantastic detail!!!!

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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: Davidgojr]
      #3417468 - 10/29/09 12:50 AM

hi luca

just finest astro and art work


walter

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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: swisswalter]
      #3417843 - 10/29/09 09:43 AM

spectacular images man. sharp and clear, loaded with interesting details. and the metsavaino images in the link just *BLEEP* away!

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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: mbucky]
      #3417853 - 10/29/09 09:52 AM

Wow!!!

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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: Andy Yeung]
      #3417865 - 10/29/09 10:01 AM

Quite stunning, thank you.
Alan C.

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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: clitherowclan]
      #3418877 - 10/29/09 06:39 PM

Super image Luca. The natural processing is really compelling.

best wishes,
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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: Alan Friedman]
      #3418941 - 10/29/09 07:27 PM

amazing

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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: old_frankland]
      #3419509 - 10/30/09 02:08 AM

Quote:

Luca, this is specatular!

Being a relative newbie to solar observing, especially H-alpha, I have a few questions regarding what I am looking at. To my untrained eye, I can see what I interpret as the leading sunspot in 11029, and its penumbra. If this is true, then I am seeing features on the photosphere, through the chromosphere....right?

The fine spicules (sp) at upper left appears to be directly over the smaller trailing spots. Can anyone explain them? Or, the bright filamentary structure between the lead spot and the smaller trailing spots?

Thanks!




What is being shown in H-alpha is primarily in the chromosphere. The Umbra of the sunspot is clearly visible, but it is surrounded by a network of fine radial filaments which is in the same general area as the white-light penumbra but often exists somewhat higher above the surface than the white light penumbra (a sort of "H-alpha penumbra"). These fibrils often connect to more distant elements of the chromosphere's "magnetic network" somewhat beyond the normal bounds of the photospheric penumbra, so while the two features are related, they are not necessarily identical. With broader bandwidth filters, the penumbra can sometimes be seen, but here in the above image, we are mainly looking at overlying structures which can be somewhat above the penumbra. If you directly compare a white-light and H-alpha image, you will see similarities, but there are some differences.

The bright patches over the trailing areas with the smaller sunspots are the bright elements of plage. Plage represents areas where the local magnetic field is realigning rapidly due to flux emergence (a new magnetic dipole emerging under existing fields). Plage and white-light faculae are related, but are not exactly the same thing, as their locations are often not precisely the same. You can see arch-like short filaments known as the "arch filament system" (AFS) which run between the opposite magnetic polarity regions in the plage. The AFS is an indicator of the emergence of more flux, possibly producing new sunspots. The fine fibrils and short filaments usually connect areas of opposite polarity, so you can think of them the same way you can think of the structure you might see when putting a bar magnet under a piece of paper with iron filings on the top. The fibrils and shorter filaments trace out some of the magnetic field structure found in the chromosphere. For more general information about H-alpha features, check out the following article:

OBSERVING THE SUN IN H-ALPHA

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astrovale
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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: Alan Friedman]
      #3419596 - 10/30/09 04:23 AM

Hello Alan,

Thanks for your comment. Regarding processing, I remember and still use the "tricks" you suggested and the result of learning from the best is noticeable

Ciao
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Re: 11029 a few hours ago. new [Re: astrovale]
      #3420003 - 10/30/09 11:28 AM

Ecellent, Dave, most informative! And thank you for the link to your guide on H-alpha observing, its full of information....very nicely done.

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