Simon S
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Ok not sure what reception I am going to get but here goes.
I have just found a pair of Subal Clover 10x50 binoculars. Classic 70's blue coatings and wide field of view. Sharp in the centre and great colour fidelity. It surprises me that some of the famous Japanesemanufacturers have made some very poor binoculars around this era but some obscure names turn out some great instruments.
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potts34
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Nothing to add as yet but well done Simon for restarting this thread and well done to Glassthrower for starting it in the first place...I was lost for days not being able to get my Vintage 'fix'.
To any body new dig into the forum archive if vintage bins are your thing there is a wealth of information on there which no doubt will soon be added to on this thread.
Not a new pic but a repost cos we like pics on here, hopefully new ones to follow soon.
Edited by potts34 (10/03/09 04:09 PM)
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Any thoughts on a pair of Zeiss 8 x 32B mc,was using them
on the Moon tonight,quite nice.Sorry no Pics
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What happened?
Simon, how about put a link to the original archived thread in the OP? Is it archived?
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Hi Folks!
Here is a link to the previous thread -
Vintage Binocular Discussion Thread - Part One
Best regards and clear skies,
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potts34
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Whats the JB number on the Subal Clovers Simon?
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Simon S
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Jb142 and Je10 Potts
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potts34
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One to look out for then, it's funny that with some Japanese 'brands' that one of their items is good and another not quite so , case in point my Omiya 8x 30's (JB32) are much better optically than their 10x 50 (JB257) period counterpart though build quality is identical and good.
Obviously (or not) their JB numbers are different.
I really rate my Limer 7X 50's these have no JB number on them just OTC in a lozenge shape on the bottom axle end, optically these are IMHO up to Zeiss standard.
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Ok not sure what reception I am going to get but here goes.
I have just found a pair of Subal Clover 10x50 binoculars. Classic 70's blue coatings and wide field of view. Sharp in the centre and great colour fidelity. It surprises me that some of the famous Japanese manufacturers have made some very poor binoculars around this era but some obscure names turn out some great instruments.
Those appear to be the highly recommended WF 10x50 yashica's. I did that without seeing the J code reply first! I'm getting good fast...
I just checked my 7x50 yashicas. Same codes.
Sos I dashes me off to the auction site, all horny for a set of those eyepieces..and there they be. Oh. Not the same eyepieces. The ones on fleabay are the Manon/Mason/Tasco/Yashica/Lisenfeld/AsahiPentax/etc ones. Nice as they may be, I'm 'a gunnin' for those eyepieces.
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Simon S
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Yes that makes sense. The 8x30 Yashicas are the best Japanese 8x30's I own and the 10x50's are great too.
Well spotted KBK, your ahead of me............
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Simon S
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A nice pair of Goerz Neo-Trieder 8X dated 1911 according to seller. Very well made binocular and good optically although soft at the edges.
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Bensi
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Great purchase!
Where did you buy?
few days ago I was following an auction of a very similar but these days I spend too much money and I stopped.
In 1911 it cost 168 Kr
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Simon S
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Ebay purchace Bensi!
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Bensi
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How are the conditions of binoculars?
It is collimated and clean?
If you want the highest quality, You'll have to disassemble a prism at a time, and wash it with water and liquid soap for dishes, putting it back into place and coincide with the screws that push the pads of aluminum that are in contact with the prism.
Just had a sighting of a prism, passes to another, until the end.
This is my advice ....
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potts34
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Doh! missed the finish of that one due to being away at a conference!!
drat and double drat!
well done Simon...again!
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Simon S
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Well potts they went to the next best home :-)
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potts34
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Well yes I suppose so!
you're quite right though the build quality on Goerz is extremely good.
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Simon S
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Bensi I had to clean the prisms and internal glass. Love the prism mounting system, easy to collimate.
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Simon S
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An unusual addition to the Swift collection, an early model tied with the company Toko and made in the 1950's. I have a similar model to this , but the Swift name was worth buying alone
Swift/Toko
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Bensi
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You're a great expert of binoculars and I have very little to explain, but ...
The Neo-Trieder was born to civilian use, so it is extremely handy and lightweight, but sturdy enough.
Instead, if you pick the model Helinox, born for the military, you'll see a very similar to binoculars and Zeiss Silvamar and Silvarem, both in size and also in weight (6x30 750g). In fact both the brass and both prisms were increased in size and weight.
Instead, if you pick the model Helinox, born for the military, you'll see a very similar to binoculars and Zeiss Silvama Silvarem, both in size and also in weight (6x30 750g). In fact both the brass and both prisms were increased in size and weight.
Ciao
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