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ESHall
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DSO Distance Guide
      #3425035 - 11/02/09 07:19 AM

Does anyone know of an online quick reference to DSO distances? It seem that whenever I show DSO's to family or friends they always ask how far that particular object is. I use Stellarium and it gives distances to planets but not to DSO's. Some sort of a quick reference that I could print out would be great. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks.

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joelimite
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Re: DSO Distance Guide new [Re: ESHall]
      #3425348 - 11/02/09 11:39 AM

Yes, I'm often inundated with the same questions and would appreciate a concise list as well. I'm sure there's at least a complete list of the Messier objects out there somewhere.

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RobertPL
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Re: DSO Distance Guide new [Re: joelimite]
      #3425363 - 11/02/09 11:51 AM

There is a neat software by Bill Tschumy called "Where is M13?" For M objects, it not only gives distances, but also shows the location of the object within (or relative to) our galaxy:

http://www.thinkastronomy.com/M13/index.html

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Hrundi
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Re: DSO Distance Guide new [Re: RobertPL]
      #3425390 - 11/02/09 12:08 PM

The distances for a lot of DSO's are not very well known though, and it takes a bit of searching.
One thing to remember, though, is that often galaxies, for example, tend to belong to groups, and even if their distance is not known, you can probably find a figure for the 'showpiece' of that group of galaxies, which'd give a passable distance estimate.

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nobody special
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Re: DSO Distance Guide new [Re: RobertPL]
      #3425590 - 11/02/09 02:12 PM

Quote:

There is a neat software by Bill Tschumy called "Where is M13?" For M objects, it not only gives distances, but also shows the location of the object within (or relative to) our galaxy:

http://www.thinkastronomy.com/M13/index.html




Robert.

Thanks, thats a very useful program

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Tom

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ESHall
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Re: DSO Distance Guide new [Re: RobertPL]
      #3425728 - 11/02/09 03:34 PM

Thanks Robert. That is a neat program. It looks like it will take care of most of the objects I would show to others. Again Thanks.

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astrokido
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Re: DSO Distance Guide new [Re: nobody special]
      #3425736 - 11/02/09 03:40 PM

Distances to DSO's are constantly being refined, and they can disagree substantially between different sources. They all depend on some vast distance measurement standard, many astronomers are trying to come up with more accurate measurements.

Redshift is probably the most common way of determining distance to objects beyond the local group of galaxies (some 50+ MLY). It depends on many factors, one of them is the Hubble Constant for the expansion rate of the Universe which has been accurately determined only very recently with the HST.

Another very approximate way of determining the distance of some types of distant galaxies is by their dimensions. If there's an indication of a galaxy's diameter in LY, it's distance can be obtained.

I've never seen a method claiming any degree of accuracy. There's some good data and interesting info at Atlas of the Universe.

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RobertPL
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Re: DSO Distance Guide new [Re: astrokido]
      #3425799 - 11/02/09 04:15 PM

Tom, Ed, you are welcome, but thank Bill instead.

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Starman1
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Re: DSO Distance Guide new [Re: RobertPL]
      #3426596 - 11/03/09 12:02 AM

Try
http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/
The most complete on-line source for info on all objects.
Also
http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/
I'll go so far as to say that these two sources pretty much cover all reference needs.
I'd also add
http://www.ngcicproject.org/
Just because it's a wonderful reference site.

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