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Wes James
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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: KBK]
      #3425240 - 11/02/09 10:27 AM

Well, I finally got good comparison checks over the weekend- it appears my eyes were slightly fogging up the eyepieces on the Nikon's!! Doh! That's what was causing the "skyglow" and associated halo's around objects! The Nikon's are totally sharp, clear and bright... however, I have come to the conclusion that they're going to be the pair to go... for me, I simply prefer the views through/ feel of the Fuji's. Which I really hate to say, because I love the Prostars... they're awesome bino's, made "like they used to". And the glare control on the Nikon's is slightly better on the full moon than in the Fuji's (really no glare at all on the moon in the Nikon's, only slight on the Fuji's) but I can only keep so many.
Wes


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RichD
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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: Wes James]
      #3425285 - 11/02/09 10:52 AM

You must be the only person who has owned both and decided to get rid of the Prostars! Almost everyone who has used them agrees the nikons are sharper to the edge and have better stray light/ghost suppression.

I'm tempted to make an offer...

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Clear skies

Rich


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Wes James
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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: RichD]
      #3425716 - 11/02/09 03:28 PM

As I said, they (the Nikon's) do have slightly better stray light/ ghost suppression.. not that the Fuji's were bad on a full moon with nearby clouds... but my Fuji's have a slightly wider fov- which I prefer. I do like the winged eyeguards on the Nikons, though... helps keep out extraneous light.
Hey, I'm always amongs the weird... I'm retiring from Florida to the North- unlike most others who go the other way!
Wes


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pcad
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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: Wes James]
      #3426185 - 11/02/09 08:05 PM

Betcha they're gone by 11/3/09.

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Peter

Telescopes 25 - 318 mm
Binoculars 15 - 88 mm
Microscope 50x - 1000x


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DJB
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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: pcad]
      #3426745 - 11/03/09 01:53 AM

Hi Wes,

Do not overlook the proposition that you can get winged eyeguards (at a most reasonable price) for the FUJIs, should you decide to head that way.

I use and implement winged eyeguards on ALL of my binoculars. Never had an "install" problem whatsoever.

When we first moved up here in upstate NY, there was hardly a light around. Things have changed in 15 years. Now, I use all the eyeguards, and they work great.

Best regards,
Dave.


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Wes James
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Re: Best 7x50? [Re: DJB]
      #3426875 - 11/03/09 05:24 AM

Hi, Dave-
Thanks for the comments... where can you get the winged eyeguards for the Fuji's?? Would love to put them on my 10x as well... Texas Nautical??
11/03, eh Peter??? Well, somebody better send me a payment then!
Wes


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KennyJ

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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: Wes James]
      #3440635 - 11/10/09 05:30 PM

I must say I'm very surprised no - one jumped in to snap up at such a bargain price that fine specimen of probably the best 7 x 50 model ever made .

Kenny


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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: KennyJ]
      #3440848 - 11/10/09 07:34 PM

I must have jinxed him. My bad. $550 was an excellent price for a ProStar with all the fixin's.

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Peter

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Solar B
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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: pcad]
      #3441439 - 11/11/09 04:00 AM

I think many of us and those new to Binos do not realise how good the ProStars are,i myself can only comment on what ive actually tried Zeiss,Swar & Tak,so maybe there in lies the problem as if more knew then they would have sold here.
Even though their legendary status is well know in the Bino
Genre.

Brian

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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: Solar B]
      #3441458 - 11/11/09 05:05 AM

the winged eyeguards?? its like showing a dog a bone - then putting it back in the fridge

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regal 10x42, 10x50ultras, 15x70 ultras, 20x80
Oly e-500, vixen 100/1000 with 0.965"/1.25",
2 old sturdy tripods for the bins (slik & velbon)
zeiss f5.6 refractor/lens (under construction)


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DJB
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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: daniel_h]
      #3443215 - 11/12/09 01:02 AM

Hi Wes,

I will offer three places for the eyeguards.

First, Edmund Scientific. Then Baker Marine. And, also, check out Alpine Astronomical. These three are my main resources.

Also, if you do not find what you are looking for, then just try a Google search with your specific requirements. Hope this will help you some.

Best regards,
Dave.


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NDfarmer
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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: DJB]
      #3444528 - 11/12/09 06:53 PM

There is a mint pair of Prostars now on AstroMart, look like a nice value. Must be a member to purchase there.

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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: NDfarmer]
      #3444720 - 11/12/09 08:56 PM

Those are the ones Wes had for sale on CN recently.

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Peter

Telescopes 25 - 318 mm
Binoculars 15 - 88 mm
Microscope 50x - 1000x


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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: CLRobles]
      #3446890 - 11/13/09 09:54 PM

I enjoy my Williams Optics 7x50 ED binos, the price is right the view is great but they are heavy.

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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: vincentdsnt]
      #3447180 - 11/14/09 02:06 AM

I'll throw into the mix my Pentax 7x50 PIFs.

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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: vincentdsnt]
      #3447182 - 11/14/09 02:06 AM

I'll throw into the mix my Pentax 7x50 PIFs.

Andrew


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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: mercedes_sl1970]
      #3448197 - 11/14/09 05:43 PM

I once had a Prostar 7 x 50 . Very nice. But sold it, thinking that I might replace it, but have not. Does the Nikon 10 x 70 astronomy version give similar performance? I have seen it at exhibitions, but have not used it in the field at night, I bought one of the discontinued wide angle Nikon 10 x 70 in Yokohama in 1975, but sold it. Those were not multi-coated. There was one for sale at the last RTMC swap meet.

Is it now possible, given the limits or readjustments mandated by the no-lead-in- glass rules in Japan, to make a : 10 x 70 wide field with high image quality, axially similar to the Prostar, but with the wide field of the wartime Nikko 10 x 70, Zeiss wartime 8 x 60, or B&L 10 degree wide field WW II 7 x 50, the DDR Zeiss Jena 8 x 50B (multicoated), or the Sard 6 x 42, but equipped with modern multicoatings? I find that the added weight , from the larger prisms and eyepieces, which this implies, is not a problem , or at least worth the added burden, which is no problem if mounted.


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Wes James
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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: Gordon Rayner]
      #3448293 - 11/14/09 06:35 PM

I would love to have a bino such as you describe, Gordon.. weight is not an issue to me... Quality of optics and wide field of view is.
Wes


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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: Wes James]
      #3449492 - 11/15/09 01:43 PM

Yes, i'd love to see a widefield, large exit pupil binocular of excellent quality come on to the market, but I fear the cost would be too high and demand too low.

Be incredible to use a 10x70 of nikon astroluxe quality, but with a 70 deg AFOV. They used to make the B&L 7x50 with a 10 deg true field, so it can be done!

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jrweisner
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Re: Best 7x50? new [Re: RichD]
      #3449524 - 11/15/09 02:03 PM

Nikon 7x50 Prostar is NOT discontinued.
It is the ultimate 7x50 ever produced.
Comparable models like Zeiss or other do NOT reach its performance.

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Nikon 7x50 SP
Nikon 10x35 E II
Nikon 10x70 SP
Nikon 18x70 WF
Kowa 8,5x44 Genesis
Pentax PF 100-ED with XW14, XW10, XW 7
Manfrotto 055 with Head 701RC2
Vixen 127/F4 2-lenses Photaron with Nagler 12mm T4
Docter 40x80 ED


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