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Ptarmigan
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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? [Re: Jack Tripper]
      #3467818 - 11/25/09 01:25 PM

1.) Saturn
2.) Moon
3.) Orion Nebula
4.) Pleiades
5.) Jupiter

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: Ptarmigan]
      #3477293 - 12/01/09 08:04 AM

I try to give "tours of the universe" with non-astro folks. I'll start with whatever planet is naked eye visible, move to a comet if there's something easily seen and then move to a double star, open, globular, milky way, then jump out to a galaxy.

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope new [Re: Leatherneck15]
      #3477509 - 12/01/09 10:31 AM

M42 through enough aperture. Blew my mind when I first saw it.

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope new [Re: hickeydp]
      #3477900 - 12/01/09 02:20 PM

In my experience, the Moon and Saturn take the cake followed by Jupiter, M13 (once you tell them how many stars are in that fuzzy ball), M42 then M45. I have found that galaxies are quite difficult for the inexperienced eye and trying to describe how to use adverted vision is a challenge for most folks. Aperture definitely helps with this.

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope new [Re: StarmanDan]
      #3478024 - 12/01/09 03:40 PM

Other than seeing the moon with my Dad at nine-years-old on Christmas night (both of us newbies) and finding Saturn all by myself at ten-years old in the same 3" Newtonian, the next biggest came when I looked at Jupiter in my cousin's home-made 12" f8 Newtonian. I don't know what mag it was, but Jupiter was about the size of a half-dollar at an arm's length---and very crisp, I must say. My cousin had ground that mirror himself, too. The tube was corrigated, ribbed steel culvert pipe, and I was on an 8-ft. ladder. I mean, WOW!

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: Leatherneck15]
      #3479627 - 12/02/09 01:37 PM

Given a telescope with a typical FOV and average skies:

1) the Moon up to First Quarter or (more unlikely) after Last Quarter
2) Saturn
3) Jupiter
4) M42/Eta Carinae Nebula
5) M13/Omega Centauri or 47 Tucanae

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #3480916 - 12/03/09 04:01 AM

Moon
Saturn
Omega Centauri
47 Tuc
NGC 3532

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: HellsKitchen]
      #3481461 - 12/03/09 12:33 PM

In a dark sky : M51 is stunning
Close to the city : Saturn

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: Fogboundturtle]
      #3481659 - 12/03/09 02:33 PM

I chose the moon the other night on a personal outreach mission. Not a single person walked away unimpressed...
I vote for....the Moooooon!



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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: RonBurgundy]
      #3481765 - 12/03/09 03:41 PM

Interesting. For me, most people were interested in Saturn.

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: Ptarmigan]
      #3481809 - 12/03/09 04:01 PM

The Moon is so big & shows fine detail so readily that it's impressive in any scope, even at x30 if the seeing's rotten. Saturn, OTOH, needs a fair size scope and seeing good enough to support x200 to be really impressive (now that we've been spoiled with Voyager, HST & Cassini images!)

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: Leatherneck15]
      #3482572 - 12/03/09 11:51 PM

At a campout last spring we set up a viewing routine for our non-astro friends, using M-13 -- worked great. First we pointed it out to them with green laser pointer; it was visible naked eye, IIRC. Then in sequence they'd look at it with binos, then a small (I think it was 80 mm) refractor, then to a 10" dob, and finally to a 14.5" dob. It was a major hit. You could hear the jaws clunk.

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: Spaced]
      #3482948 - 12/04/09 09:25 AM

Saturn is #1. But after many years, I still can picture the first time I saw M-51 in a large scope.

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: Jim Davenport]
      #3486151 - 12/06/09 06:47 AM

I'm going to say M42--the Orion Nebula just because it looks absolutely stunning in just about *any* scope.

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: Dain]
      #3490746 - 12/08/09 05:50 PM

This time of year definately M42. Indeed in just about any telescope is sock off blowing as so to say.

Just came in from a sort session with my brandnew 22x85.
Darn exciting M42, fairly big,dark gap,3 may 4 stars (1 pending... )
So even in (ok rather big) binoculars M42 is amazing

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: F.Meiresonne]
      #3490815 - 12/08/09 06:37 PM

Most of my work with visitors new to viewing through a telescope is with a 10" f/10 SCT, so I'll jump in and add to the two others who've said NGC457/Caldwell 13/ET Cluster/Owl Cluster.

Kids really seem more excited by this one than some of the other DSO eye candy; a shape they can recognize and get a handle on. Of course, the younger folks only connect with The Owl Cluster, since ET is kind of off the radar screen for school aged kids. It's also been called Johnny 5 cluster, after the movie Short Circuit.

It seems just the right size in my 10" SCT; I use a 22mm Panoptic, and the FOV frames it nicely at 115X.

If I'm at a dark site with older folks, M51 and M104 are received very well, along with M42. At my focal length I need to avoid the larger objects like M31 or the Double Cluster; even with a focal reducer I just can't reasonably get those in. But my big hits, depending on season, are The Owl Cluster, Orion Nebula, Saturn. Jupiter, Whirlpool, and Sombrero. There is a short time every year, however, when I get Omega Centaurus, and all the other objects are on the back shelf at that time.

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: Jack Tripper]
      #3577960 - 01/22/10 10:43 PM

Well, a long-time friend finally agreed to look through my telescope, his first ever look through a telescope.

I started him with the moon...he was stunned by the details, hardly able to leave the EP. Unfortunately, I think it blinded him too, because the next target, the Double Cluster, didn't seem to impress him. I then went to The Orion Nebula, and he liked that one. He looked a little let down by the next target, M31. That is, until I explained to him how far away it was. I then went to M37, and he loved the high number of faint stars just barely visible. He also really liked the Blinking Planetary Nebula.

He then begged me to look at individual stars. I was there to please, so I agreed. He first wanted to look at Sirius, and he was MESMERIZED for several minutes by how it twinkled. He also asked to see the North Star, probably because it well known outside the astronomy world.

So, if I were to rank his favourite objects, it would be:

1) The Moon
2) Sirius (LOL - not very high on my personal list)
3) M37
4) M42
5) Blinking Planetary

Of course, if Saturn, Jupiter, or M13 were out, things might have been different.
A really fun evening. I just love first-timers reactions!

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: Jack Tripper]
      #3577980 - 01/22/10 10:57 PM

Saturn. No other possible #1. I'd put M42 as a close second, provided that you preface the view with a brief commentary about star formation.

I'm so enthusiastic about Saturn as many years ago I was using my telescope in a neighbor's backyard (he let me borrow his yard so I could avoid his garage lights and have a darker, more open sky view). He stopped out one night after I had set-up my scope, so I showed him Saturn. He exclaimed - "You can see the rings!" And then he proceeded to run inside, woke-up his wife, and her come outside. I thereafter showed them a bunch of other objects, but Saturn was by far the winner.

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: JayKSC]
      #3577982 - 01/22/10 10:58 PM

... And in retrospect, I'd put M31 as a #3. For the more scientific-inclined, I've found M31 is a wower. Those with a scientific mind and knowledge seem to love being able to see a galaxy. It's more of a mind-trip than a stunning view.

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Re: First object to wow someone with no telescope exp? new [Re: JayKSC]
      #3578000 - 01/22/10 11:07 PM

Quote:

It's more of a mind-trip than a stunning view.

- Jay
South Florida



That's it exactly. I spend hours on that trip every chance I can. Very well put.

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