Mike Loffland
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Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
#3787475 - 05/05/10 10:27 AM
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Berenice's Hair
By: Phill Harrington
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stevecoe
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3788155 - 05/05/10 04:16 PM Attachment (87 downloads)
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Phil, et al;
Here is an observation of this huge and bright cluster with my old 10X50's.
COMA STAR CLUSTER (Melotte 111) is extremely bright, extremely large, not rich, not compressed. I count 32 members with a pair of 10 X 50 binoculars. A telescope does not help much, there are few "fill in" stars. The cluster has a definite arrowhead shape.
This image with the Canon Xt and an 85mm f/1.9 lens. It is a 90 second exposure.
Edited by stevecoe (05/05/10 04:19 PM)
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PhilH
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3788214 - 05/05/10 04:44 PM
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Thanks, Steve. The Coma Star Cluster has been a favorite of mine way back to my first binoculars, a long-deceased pair of 7x35s. As I mention in the article, I find the view through my extra wide-field 7x50s more satisfying than my 10x50s, thanks to their 11-deg field.
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3790538 - 05/06/10 08:00 PM
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Phil,
Thanks for your articles! Although I own two telescopes, I find myself using mainly binoculars. After a full day of work, it is relaxing to get out for a short while just with a binocular rather than setting up a scope, chair, eyepiece box, etc.
Right now the Coma Cluster is high in the sky and well-placed for observation. I agree that this object is best viewed with a 7x binocular. My 10x50 Ultima has a 5 degree field and crowds the cluster too much. I have been trying to spot nearby NGC 4565 but so far no success. It's a challenge object I'm going to keep trying for.
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3791172 - 05/07/10 05:26 AM
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another great read Phil, are there any books covering the melotte catalogue?
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PhilH
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3793266 - 05/08/10 06:27 AM
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another great read Phil, are there any books covering the melotte catalogue?
Not that I am aware of, although I list and describe several in my book Touring the Universe Through Binoculars.
Melotte's listing of open star clusters was published in 1915 as "A catalogue of star clusters shown on the Franklin-Adams chart plates" in the Memoirs of the Royal Astronomical Society, Vol. 60, pp. 175-186. Unfortunately, there is no on-line source even for that article. It is listed in the SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS) here, but only as a citation.
Does anyone know of a source that lists all of the Melotte clusters?
On a related note, CN's own Thomas Watson wrote an excellent overview of the Collinder catalog of open clusters, many of which are also ideal for binoculars. You can find and read his 2008 article here.
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PJ Anway
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3795760 - 05/09/10 03:29 PM
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Nice article Phil! I have been working on compiling the Melotte catalog, but only have verified 163 of the 245 members. So far I've used SIMBAD, SkyTools and AstroPlanner. A friend and "Fellow of the RAS" is working on getting me a copy of the article from the Memoirs of the Royal Astronomical Society. Hope to have that soon. As soon as I get a complete catalog compiled, I'll post it.
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3797923 - 05/10/10 07:08 PM
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Phil...
This month's article is great! Lots of information and plenty of graphics and references to satisfy those of us who like to study.
There is not much online about Melotte or his Catalogue of star clusters shown on the Franklin-Adams chart plates (1915). Not much either in the standard amateur astronomy books.
However, a 3-page obituary of Melotte does provide a few facts about this elusive astronomer. The astronomer's obit was published in the Quarterly Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society (1962), and is available from the SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS).
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3800814 - 05/12/10 05:45 AM
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Thanks, Bob and PJ. Bob, very interesting obit about Melotte. I'll have to save that for future reference.
And PJ, I'll look forward to your results! Sounds great!
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3802417 - 05/12/10 11:06 PM
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yes PJ, please post in the bino forum when you're done
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3805009 - 05/14/10 09:43 AM
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Great article, Phil. I always love to read the star lore stories that go with the sky views.
To Phil and the other posters of this thread, thanks for the graphics and pictures that show the entire cluster. I sometimes forget how big Mel 111 really is and that it's best seen in wide field binoculars.
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#3806801 - 05/15/10 08:41 AM
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Phil's article and these posts are wonderful. Everyone's comments got me to thinking. One of my thoughts--How do the other posters see Berenice's Hair from their various geographical locations?
So, I turned to SkyTools 3, a wonderful observation planning software program that I have loaded on my PC. This program provides many features. One feature is the ability to view the night sky from various geographical locations, dates, and times.
In addition to the viewing location of my own backyard here in Kentucky, I also set up additional viewing locations. Spruce Knob, West Virginia, North America is my closest dark site (7.1 to 7.5 mag, Clear Sky Clock data, 350 miles away, 8 hrs). Kentucky, North America (+38° latitude)
Spruce Knob, West Virginia, North America (+38° latitude)
Key West, Florida, North America (+24° latitude)
Sucre, Bolivia, South America (-19° latitude)
Melbourne, Australia (-37° latitude) Among other things, what prompted me to do this was the desire to observe Berenice's Hair in its correct position--not the upside down position I observe from here in Kentucky. Of course, I could have grabbed an atlas off the shelf and turned it upside down.
Daniel_H, you are fortunate because you get to observe Berenice's Hair in its natural free-flowing position. Shirley, if you travel to Key West, you should be able to enjoy her hair in its natural position. Depending upon the time you choose to observe, you folks also have another option that I do not have--to view Berenice's Hair flying behind her head, as if she is riding in a very fast, open-top chariot. However, Phil and those of us in the 40-degree latitude must use artificial means such as software programs or turning our atlas upside down, before we can enjoy her natural hair position.
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Another neat feature with SkyTools 3 is the ability to adjust sky limiting magnitude. I have three settings for my backyard: 5.0 mag (most nights, actual measure with Sky Quality Meter, SQM), 5.5 mag (nights I enjoyed 2 years ago, SQM measure), and 7.1 mag (the sky as Native Americans may have viewed it 400 years ago). The time-travel jump in my backyard from 5.0 mag to 7.1 mag makes quite a difference, when toggling from the two settings in SkyTools 3. On the positive side, all these measures and software simulations make traveling to a dark site so special. While I am there I want to burn every heavenly sight into my memory.
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Finally, in my opinion, I think online sky magnitude measures, such as Clear Sky Clock and Dark Sky Finder, should be taken with a grain of salt. In my case, the online measures report sky magnitude of 5.5, which was what I was getting two years ago when I did actual measures with a Sky Quality Meter. This year, the magnitude has dropped to 5.0--same instrument, same location, same time of year, and same time of night.
If sky darkness matters to you, I suggest you purchase a Sky Quality Meter and begin recording the magnitude measures from your observing locations.
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3807002 - 05/15/10 11:09 AM
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A wonderful article indeed .
Thanks , Phil !
It's always a special pleasure to see and read about views through " humble " 7x binoculars , which if we are to read much into the trend indicated in the majority of postings to the CN Binoculars forum over the past couple of years , seem in serious danger of becoming overlooked , if not obsolete .
Kenny
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3807265 - 05/15/10 02:17 PM
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Bob, thanks for your thoughtful and insightful post. I recently purchased SkyTools3 and have not learned to use all of its attributes. Your clear descriptions have given me some ideas to use it to better advantage.
Another good reason to travel to Key West is to be able to see the Southern Cross. I can see Gacrux, beta, delta and occasionally epsilon Crux on very clear nights looking south over water, but Acrux grazes the horizon and remains out of sight.
Owning a SQM is a good idea. I don't have one yet.
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3841633 - 06/01/10 09:14 PM
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Hi group,
I finished the Melotte catalog. I was able to obtain a copy of the original paper entitled: “ A Catalogue of Star Clusters shown on the Franklin-Adams Chart Plates” by P.J. Melotte – 1915. I used this, the book “Star Clusters” by Archinal and Hynes – 2003, SkyTools 3 Pro software and WDS 2009. I hope that it is accurate and free of errors (please respond if you spot any). The catalog contains all 245 entries. Two are not clusters and about 60 never appear in my latitude-46° skies; leaving around 180 clusters for me to observe.
Download it in Excel at: http://www.munisingwebsites.com/lookum/info/Melotte_Cat.xls
Download in pdf at: http://www.munisingwebsites.com/lookum/info/Melotte_Cat.pdf
Hope you find it useful.
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3841986 - 06/02/10 02:17 AM
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With the greatest appreciation,
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PhilH
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3842083 - 06/02/10 05:23 AM
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Let me add my thanks to Todd's. That's great, PJ! This is a very useful listing to have and in a very convenient format, too. Great work!!
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3842520 - 06/02/10 11:32 AM
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Nice!
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PJ Anway
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An added note: Looks like binocular object - McNaught C/2009 P1 - is headed for Melotte 20 in a few days. Here's a pic of the route:
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Re: Binocular Universe: Berenice's Hair
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#3861789 - 06/13/10 07:14 AM
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Thank you PJ!
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