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astropho
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Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisement new
      #5201657 - 05/02/12 11:35 AM

Hey folks,

just curious, has anyone seen, own, or has posted an original Advertisement of the Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 refractor from any of the vintage Sears catalogs? ron


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Carl Kolchak
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Re: Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisement new [Re: astropho]
      #5201730 - 05/02/12 12:17 PM

Try this website out, astropho:

http://www.wishbookweb.com/

peace & clear skies,

Edited by Carl Kolchak (05/02/12 12:18 PM)


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astropho
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Re: Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisement new [Re: Carl Kolchak]
      #5201755 - 05/02/12 12:29 PM

Thanks for the reply. Has anyone noticed that the model number listed in the Ad is 6346N and not 6345? Also, this seems to be the only Ad for the Sears Discoverer 6345...I don't see this Ad in the 1969, 71 or 72 catalogs. It is correct to assume that this scope was only advertised to the public by Sears in their 1970 catalog and therefore got very limited exposure? Can we also assume that for that price, $500, a lot in 1970, that they (Sears) realized that the 6345 was a flop in sales and therefore discontinued it and no longer advertised it? ron

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astropho
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Re: Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisement new [Re: Carl Kolchak]
      #5201775 - 05/02/12 12:35 PM

Also, in the lower right hand corner, it indicates where the 2 Sears factories were located that these model 6345's were shipped from. Very interesting. ron

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Nave
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Re: Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisement new [Re: astropho]
      #5201800 - 05/02/12 12:46 PM

Can you guys indicate what page you're looking at in the 1970 catalog? I'm not finding it.

Edit: Found it - Page 12.

Edited by Nave (05/02/12 12:48 PM)


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Re: Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisement new [Re: Nave]
      #5201837 - 05/02/12 01:04 PM

Yes, page 12. Interesting that there was one factory on each coast for distribution. California and New Jersey. Why is the model number 6346N instead of 6345 on the Ad? The 69, 71, and 72 Christmas catalogs show other (Royal Astro Optical) telescope Ad's, but none for the Sears 6345? ron

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Re: Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisement new [Re: astropho]
      #5202631 - 05/02/12 07:47 PM

I've seen the old advertisements in the catalogs of '71 and '72. The scope started out at $499 in '70, then in '71 it was dropped to $399, and finally in '72, it was dropped to $299. I used to have copies of the advertisements. I don't know where they are at the moment.

The 6345 is a Huge scope. The OTA is nearly 5 feet long. They were made by Royal Astro optical, and only marketed through Sears in the 3 years mentioned. The optical quality of the scope is excellent. I've had a few vintage refractors, and the Sears is top notch. It beats out any refractor scope I've owned as far as optical quality.

I think the scope was so big that it wasn't popular in the consumer market. As you noted $500 was a great deal of money in the early '70s, however interestingly enough, the Tasco 20TE, which was just a bit larger, listed at $999 if I'm not mistaken. The Tasco however, had a very nice pier mount that accompanied it, and it was 1600mm in focal length compared to the Sears at 1400mm.

These old refractors are truly quality instrumentation.


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Re: Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisemen new [Re: astropho]
      #5202754 - 05/02/12 09:04 PM

Hi and welcome Astropho...

I 'm assuming you are interested in this telescope and not just the advertising for it.

If you want the Sears 6345 education of a lifetime try this...

On the forums home page you will find (upper right side) some options...Forum archives-Entrance-Main Index- Search-My Home

Click Search...

Choose "classic telescope" forums...

Keyword... enter Sears 6345

Username... enter habsburg8

You will be offered many posts to peruse about this 90 mm scope. Habsburg8 (aka John Siple) is the 6345 man. He has owned a number of these scopes and still owns a few. He believes that only 400 were manufactured but only 20 or 25 have been accounted for through his efforts. I know John is always on the lookout for the next one to surface. I think 1.22 surface per year but that is just from 2008-present. John knows these scopes as da bomb!

Rich (aka woodsman)... Hi Rich! has the facts and history right too. They are a rather large (by department store standards) telescopes. I have a theory that classic telescope lovers are pretty much my age. In 1970-72 I was not looking at Sears Christmas Catalogs anymore. I was trying to maintain college credits, facing the draft board, and doing some stuff i won't mention here, as well as working a few jobs. If this scope had hit the market in 1966 I would have sold my soul to the devil for it. I think there was a limited market for such a relatively large scope because it came during an astronomical lull. There was a heck of a lot going on when Sears tried to market this beauty. I think bad timing kept the production numbers low. By 1970 I was done pining for the next refractor. I don't think I was unique in that.

I had mine out just last week. The 90mm ain't no 60mm or 76mm or 80mm. This baby can catch some light!


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Nave
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Re: Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisemen new [Re: strdst]
      #5202794 - 05/02/12 09:57 PM

I love my 6345.
A lot.


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Re: Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisemen new [Re: Nave]
      #5202820 - 05/02/12 10:14 PM

As Rich noted the 6345 was also advertised in 1971 and 1972. These ads were in the Fall/Winter catalogs, not the Christmas Wishbook.

I'd guess the 6346 is a typo. I don't know what the F4 N before 6346 means but the N at the end means it was a Motorized Equatorial Mount (as all 6345s were). For the record, an L at the end means Equatorial and C means Alt./Az.


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Re: Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisemen new [Re: strdst]
      #5202828 - 05/02/12 10:19 PM

DUDE! How's it goin'? I just started posting here after a major lull. Great suggestion about Siple. He is the master of the refractor, and the 6345 was/is his baby. I'm glad to hear that someone is using their 6345. I haven't had any time in the last month to observe, but I'm getting seriously itchy. Now I want to get my 6345 tube out there. It is after all such a grab n' go scope!

In a side by side comparison with any of my other refractors, the Sears beats them handily, and even against the Stellar Swift 831, it won as well, and the Swift has HIGH quality optics.

Good to hear from you bud. How's the beer these days?


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Re: Sears 90mm Discoverer model #6345 Advertisemen [Re: PiSigma]
      #5202838 - 05/02/12 10:26 PM

Interesting and good info on the N, L, and the C Jon. I didn't know that myself, so I was educated today. Those old refractor scopes really do perform. Even the smaller ones usually have very good optics. A testament to days gone by when pride of wormanship was a major component of production.

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