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Starman1
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Re: Need help in choosing battery new [Re: Seanem44]
      #5283695 - 06/22/12 11:43 AM

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Black & Decker at Home Depot
This is the battery you need:
--2 AC outlets
--2 DC 12V outlets
--jumper cables
--tire inflator with gauge
--area light
--19-20 amp-hours
--under $100
--charger built in (uses simple extension cord to plug in to charge) that will not overcharge.
--100% more reliable than the low-reliability power tanks mentioned.
--not tippy
--charge indicator
I've had mine 5 years and it still charges right up and has about the same life.
--it will run the CPC1100 for an entire weekend.




Will it power a dew heater or do you need another external power source for that?

This sounds likes a very good option.



It has 2 12V DC cigarette-lighter connections, 2 110V AC connections, one Anderson power pole connector, and also comes with a male-male 12V connector cable if needed.
If you use dew heaters and power the scope in cold weather, I am not certain you could rely on the battery for 2 complete nights of observing. But if you use the dew heater at lower amperage or cycle them on and off, you probably could get two complete nights of power out of 19ah.

Sears also has a portable DieHard rechargeable that's 28ah.

When I wanted a battery that could run everything (scope, dewheater, laptop) for several nights, I used a 108ah RV rechargeable battery. At 60 lbs, it wasn't as easily portable. When I sold my 8" SCT, I sold it with a 56ah battery that only weighed 26lbs. Weight and capacity go hand-in-hand. The Black & Decker I recommended is fairly light and easily transported.


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gnowellsct
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Re: Need help in choosing battery [Re: Starman1]
      #5284226 - 06/22/12 05:50 PM Attachment (13 downloads)

Well the key thing he said here is he is in Virginia and to me that means humidity is an issue. If he doesn't have dew control the mount requirements are moot.

The battery is fifty or sixty bucks. Currently using a marine battery from NAPA, something like 80 or 90 amp hours. The cooler was maybe fifteen. The wires from radio shack maybe five or ten. I did put in an in-line fuse but for many years used it without. I do have a couple of chargers that I've picked up over the years, the one I use most is a 1.5 amp float charger, but I also have a charger that has 2, 10, and 15 amp settings which come in handy if I want to top up the charge before going out for a second night of observing.

With a C11 dew heater installed *internally* in the C11, and steppers and Argo Navis running, I draw 2.6 amps all night long. Given the size of the battery that is about thirty hours of battery life but I think one is supposed to use about half the rated maximum draw down so maybe 15 hours is a more prudent calculation. Over a 7 hour period the voltage dropped from 12.5 to 11.9, so if I went out for a second night starting at 11.9 I might run into trouble. Might be time to start thinking abouot a new battery, but acid levels are good so I'll put it off.

Simple as this set up is, it has worked in all seasons in a variety of environments down to -15F for about ten years. This being the case, I tend to think that people who pay $100 for a 17 amp hour rig are not getting a good value for their money.

BUT, there are many different levels of power requirements. I just think these 15 to 20 amp hour rigs are mainly for people living in very dry climates. It'll run your drives but not much else.

Greg N


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Geo.
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Loc: Upstate NY
Re: Need help in choosing battery new [Re: Phil Sherman]
      #5285085 - 06/23/12 11:10 AM

Batteries kill me. I use a mower battery on the boat to power the instruments. With a little solar panel it does the job all season. These have a one year warranty and run $30-50 at Tractor Supply. Top of the line are 370 cold cranking amps. If left on a trickle charger they last a couple-three seasons.

So the '91 Miata's battery wouldn't take charge this spring. Off to AutoZone where I pay $120 for a 370 CCA that's the same size as the $50 mower battery. What's wrong with this picture?

Good info here:
http://www.batterystuff.com/kb/articles/battery-articles/battery-basics.html#4


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