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Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor
      #3393088 - 10/16/09 02:16 PM

Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: Mike Loffland]
      #3393238 - 10/16/09 03:40 PM

Excellent report Karl!

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: SteveG]
      #3393254 - 10/16/09 03:49 PM

nice to hear this scope sounds like its a good value. I thought it was f5.9

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: dlapoint]
      #3393266 - 10/16/09 03:54 PM

After that review I would consider this scope.

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: Mike Loffland]
      #3393403 - 10/16/09 05:26 PM

That's a really nice write-up of your shake-down of the new ES 6" F6.5. That one is a bit too heavy for my fancy but you've got me thinking about its 5" little brother....

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: Mike Loffland]
      #3393690 - 10/16/09 09:18 PM

Nice write-up Karl. I used to own a Jaegers 6" f/5 refractor. It was great at lowest powers (21x with a 35 Panoptic), but was pretty awful much above that (83x with a 9 Nagler). It sounds like the ES maker is paying much more attention to figure.

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Edited by Jeff Morgan (10/17/09 12:33 AM)


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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: Jeff Morgan]
      #3393766 - 10/16/09 10:10 PM Attachment (53 downloads)

Thanks.

Here is the focuser.

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: galaxyman]
      #3393771 - 10/16/09 10:12 PM Attachment (42 downloads)

The nice metal case.


Karl
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Telekit (Swayze optics) 22" F/4.5 Dob
Homemade (Parks Optics) 12.5" F/4.8 Dob
TMB 8" f/9 Refractor”The Beast”. One great achro
ES 6" f/6.5 achro. New
Orion 4" f/6 Refractor. Also not bad for an achro
Celestron 10x60mm Binos

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: galaxyman]
      #3393781 - 10/16/09 10:18 PM Attachment (51 downloads)

The meat of any scope...optics

As you can see the coatings have very little reflective properties, and are fully multi-coated.

I'm taking this scope down to West Virginia this week, and hopefully to get it under some of the darkest skies in the east.

Karl
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Chesmont Astronomical Society
Telekit (Swayze optics) 22" F/4.5 Dob
Homemade (Parks Optics) 12.5" F/4.8 Dob
TMB 8" f/9 Refractor”The Beast”. One great achro
ES 6" f/6.5 achro. New
Orion 4" f/6 Refractor. Also not bad for an achro
Celestron 10x60mm Binos

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: galaxyman]
      #3394539 - 10/17/09 12:43 PM

nice review

the first few paragraphs made me laugh

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: pollux]
      #3394737 - 10/17/09 02:45 PM

Good Review!

A real good thing about your review is the side-by-side with the APM. It is good to understand that a lot of good performance is available for a modest price, and that although premium optics are worth the cost, differences can be incremental rather than massive.

Arizona Ken

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: Mike Loffland]
      #3395448 - 10/18/09 12:12 AM

Mike,

Where did you get this scope? It's not on Explore Scientific's or Astronomics' website. I would sure like to check one of these out for myself. Thanks!

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: Al Miller]
      #3396546 - 10/18/09 04:18 PM

See here:
http://store.explorescientific.com/doubletachromaticrefractortelescopes.aspx

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: galaxyman]
      #3397014 - 10/18/09 09:02 PM

Great review! Since you had the Antares, optically how do you rate the two? Any differencees? btw, the lens housing between the tube and the dew shield...what is it made of? I believe on the Antares with the fixed dew shield it was either a hard plastic or a brittle base metal (mine cracked!).

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: Mike Loffland]
      #3399981 - 10/20/09 11:24 AM

Nice write up Karl. The focuser looks nicer than the Antares/GSO two speed and the multi coated lens make a nice upgrade from the Antares 1529.

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: DLB242]
      #3400924 - 10/20/09 07:45 PM

Excellent review! Looks like a terrific scope for DSOs. Explorer Scientific seems to be pumping out some quality gear, what with their 100 degree eyepieces, ED refractors, and now fast achros.

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: joelimite]
      #3404196 - 10/22/09 01:36 PM

Quote:

Excellent review! Looks like a terrific scope for DSOs. Explorer Scientific seems to be pumping out some quality gear, what with their 100 degree eyepieces, ED refractors, and now fast achros.




Thanks

Yes, they do seem to have something going here, as long as they stay on track about looking over the products for quality assurance.

Just got back from West Virginia, and was able to use the scope for two nights. One night (Monday) from Spruce Knob


Pollux - I believe I've been telling my wife that this was "the last" scope since the early 1980's. I believe there has been twelve since, including the 22" dob and the 8" refractor

Bill - It seems to be a overall upgrade of the Antares 6" f/6.5, that is solidly built. Not sure at this moment about the lens housing between the tube an dew shield. The scope does fit in the case with the shield left on, so I haven't pulled off the shield. The lens cell is made of metal, with no rattling of optics, and the scope keeps it's collimation in tacked during transporting. Optically the difference between my Antares (a good one) and this particular Explore Scientific is close, though the coatings are better in the ES. In fact the best I've seen in an achro except my APM 8".


David - The focuser is better than the GSO on the Antares, as is the coatings.


Karl
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Chesmont Astronomical Society
Telekit (Swayze optics) 22" F/4.5 Dob
Homemade (Parks Optics) 12.5" F/4.8 Dob
TMB 8" F/9 Refractor”The Beast”. One great achro
ES 6" F/6.5 achro- NEW
Orion 4" f/6 Refractor. Also not bad for an achro
Celestron 10x60 binos

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: Mike Loffland]
      #3407183 - 10/23/09 10:13 PM

Nice review, Karl! Thanks for writing it.

What color did you see on Jupiter? Was it mainly on the disk itself, or also in the space around it?

Mike

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: Mike Holland]
      #3407315 - 10/23/09 11:23 PM

Quote:

Nice review, Karl! Thanks for writing it.

What color did you see on Jupiter? Was it mainly on the disk itself, or also in the space around it?

Mike




Thanks Mike

A bit of color around the disc at 330x, but the large disc itself was sharp and not fuzzed out (good optics). Some detail on the belts were seen with moments of steady seeing. It was seriously bright (something I'm not use to).

As you know from the article that planets are not my forte, but it would be interesting to see what planetary filters or other types that are available would do.

I believe some of my club members own such filters, so maybe some time I will try one and see the results.


Karl
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Chesmont Astronomical Society
Telekit (Swayze optics) 22" F/4.5 Dob
Homemade (Parks Optics) 12.5" F/4.8 Dob
TMB 8" f/9 Refractor”The Beast”. One great achro
ES 6" f/6.5 achro. New
Orion 4" f/6 Refractor. Also not bad for an achro
Celestron 10x60mm Binos

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Re: Explore Scientific 6" f/6.5 Refractor new [Re: galaxyman]
      #3413082 - 10/26/09 10:25 PM

Thanks, Karl. I appreciate all of the info.

Mike

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