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Blind-Cyclops
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Asteroid detection funding falling short -- NASA new
      #3426485 - 11/02/09 11:16 PM

Glassthrower (in the Space Rocks thread) had this link to a timely report related to this new topic thread.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/08/13/nasa.asteroid.detection/index.html

Thanks Mike.

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Edited by oldsalt (11/03/09 04:21 PM)


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WillCarney
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Re: Asteroid detection funding falling short -- NASA new [Re: Blind-Cyclops]
      #3427762 - 11/03/09 04:04 PM

One thing that is disturbing is that 30% or more of the sky is not currently being searched. There are no southern hemisphere searches going on. The fire at the Australia site has affected this I guess. They are still not back to normal. There is no funding for this either.
William


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Re: Asteroid detection funding falling short -- NASA [Re: WillCarney]
      #3428372 - 11/03/09 10:37 PM

Quote:

One thing that is disturbing is that 30% or more of the sky is not currently being searched. There are no southern hemisphere searches going on. The fire at the Australia site has affected this I guess. They are still not back to normal. There is no funding for this either.
William




When you say 30% of the sky isn't being searched, to the layman, that sounds like 30% of potential problem asteroids aren't even going to be discovered by current searches, but, that's just not the case. Asteroids are moving, so, one that's in that 30% today, wont be in a few weeks, it will have moved into that part of the sky that is being actively searched. The unsearched areas are typically at the high polar declinations, and, survey telescopes aren't pointing in that direction for a good reason, it's below thier horizon. That means, something up there is on a high polar trajectory, and will certainly move out of that area into the searched area soon enough. If it's actually staying up in that area, then, it's not an asteroid, because it's not in a sun orbit. If it's in a sun orbit, and up that high in declination, it'll come down into the searched area soon enough.


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RockandIceHunter
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Re: Asteroid detection funding falling short -- NASA new [Re: WillCarney]
      #3432224 - 11/06/09 12:47 AM

Quote:

One thing that is disturbing is that 30% or more of the sky is not currently being searched. There are no southern hemisphere searches going on. The fire at the Australia site has affected this I guess. They are still not back to normal. There is no funding for this either.
William




There are a number of problems with that article, and the others that were released at the same time. For the most part it was a normal report that got hyped in the media for some strange reason.

The surveying they are referring to has not begun, nor has it been decided to go forward. Kinda hard to be falling behind on a program that has not been given a green light at any level.

William,
I think Rob & Gordon, who operate our sister survey at Siding Spring, would be surprised to hear that they don't exist! Their observing did get interrupted for a short time due to smoke, but they're finding NEOs and comets just as well as they always have.

We've been funded for an additional three years. Maybe you hadn't heard.

As for "falling short"? Actually, we have attained the goal set by Congress a decade ago, right on time, this year.

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WillCarney
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Re: Asteroid detection funding falling short -- NASA new [Re: RockandIceHunter]
      #3432516 - 11/06/09 09:09 AM

Thanks for the update. I was not aware that you guys were
back up and running. Good to here that your ok.
William


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nightstalker
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Re: Asteroid detection funding falling short -- NASA new [Re: WillCarney]
      #3447185 - 11/14/09 02:10 AM

True Richard I believe that missplaced Scot and his partner in crime have been quite busy over the last few years

The fire was elswhere Will, not that it didn't destroy a lot of history in regard to astronomy down under .. all these guys are looking and finding stuff on all sides of the pond .. which is a pretty important contribution to
life on our rock .. imo

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davidc
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Re: Asteroid detection funding falling short -- NASA new [Re: RockandIceHunter]
      #3452284 - 11/16/09 10:14 PM

Richard,
I've spent quite a few hours, on different occasions, listening to Rik Hill's presentations on NEO's, and his other adventures, and spent one interesting and informative night with him at the Catalina Schmidt on Bigelow. I know he would, and I back you 110% by saying that this article has nothing to stand on, especially reporting that 30% of the southern sky not being covered. I was there for myself to see how CSS, MSS, and the SSS (and Calif and N.M.) worked together. It would be interesting to hear his take on the article, but I know which way he would go with that one. I hope sometime I can go back to the Schmidt, or even visit the Stewart on MSS.
David

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