Crayfordjon
Vendor - Zerochromat
   
Reged: 06/17/09
Loc: UK
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Last year I built A hand held prototype of a Hypochromatic refractor working at 50mm clear aperture, the scope was too small, and light weight was an option, so the standrad CF would be too cumbersome for such a small refractor. So I designed a simple push twist pull twist CF without rollers or focuasing wheels. It was a success and I could achieved a high degree of focus with it. There was some interest in this focusser on another thread, so I thougth I would post it for those who like to make one; beginners note!
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Crayfordjon
Vendor - Zerochromat
   
Reged: 06/17/09
Loc: UK
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Another view.
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Crayfordjon
Vendor - Zerochromat
   
Reged: 06/17/09
Loc: UK
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Another view.
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Vincent Becker
sage
Reged: 09/16/08
Loc: France
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Very nice design, I was looking for such a simple focuser for a project of mine and might have just found it
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Crayfordjon
Vendor - Zerochromat
   
Reged: 06/17/09
Loc: UK
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Ahh! a customer, glad you like it Vincent, here is another view of the focuser.
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Vincent Becker
sage
Reged: 09/16/08
Loc: France
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Thank you, this view is the best one The pressure adjuster is very clever.
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Luigi
Postmaster
   
Reged: 07/03/07
Loc: MA
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Very nice. I would split the long supporting teflon V into two shorter spaced Vs to more precisely define the longitudinal axis.
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Crayfordjon
Vendor - Zerochromat
   
Reged: 06/17/09
Loc: UK
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Hi Luigi. Yes you are right, I have thought of that one, but I thought I would keep it simple for the beginners. My own focuser has two continous strips as per the sketch etc, and it seems to work quite well.
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arpruss
Carpal Tunnel
   
Reged: 05/23/08
Loc: Waco, TX
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Would you have the dimensions of the teflon strips? A friend has offered to send me some teflon but needs dimensions. Thanks!
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Crayfordjon
Vendor - Zerochromat
   
Reged: 06/17/09
Loc: UK
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HI. Dimensions as follows. For the vee support: two pieces 40mm long by 35mm wide by 2.5mm thick, for the pressure pad, 10mm long by 40mm wide by 2.5mm thick. This is for my PPCF of course as it is only 40mm long, and takes a tube about Dia 32mm, or 1.25 inches. You can vary these di mensions to suit your own specs. The minimum thickness of the pads is dictated by the depth of the countersunk head screw heads that must be below the surface of the pads.
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Crayfordjon
Vendor - Zerochromat
   
Reged: 06/17/09
Loc: UK
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A diagram to help you.
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arpruss
Carpal Tunnel
   
Reged: 05/23/08
Loc: Waco, TX
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As a beginner, I really appreciated this. For my in-progress 8" F/3.93 travel-scope, I made a version using blocks of wood instead of the aluminum angle. The blocks are 3/4" thick hardwood, about 1 1/8" high and 1" long. They are at 120 degrees around the central hole. They are JB Welded into place, though I may eventually run a wood screw into each.
The drawtube is Schedule 40 1-1/4" conduit, which is about 1/8" too big in ID, but has a 1-1/4" plastic drainpipe top pressed inside it. (If I am not happy with it, I may take a new piece conduit--I still have 10 feet less 3 three inches left!--and line it with felt, which also gets me flocking, or maybe glue 1/16" teflon strips in it.)
The teflon is bondable 1/16" teflon ordered from Amazon's Industrial and Scientific store. It is glued to the wood with Shoe Goo. JB Weld would have worked fine, too.
The adjustable tension block was done as follows (after a false start). I cut out a segment of one of the blocks so the adjustment screw would have less wood to go through. I drilled a hole for a #10 thumbscrew, and tapped it by screwing the thumbscrew in. Turned out that it was too hard to turn, so I expanded just under half of the hole shaft into a 1/4" hole, and then screwed the thumbscrew in and out several times until it moved nicely. (I have some experience with the hardwood I used and think it will hold a thread nicely.)
I used Shoe Goo (a thin layer of JB Weld would work) to glue a square of metal (cut from a spare PC expansion slot rear cover) to the rear of the top half of a 1" x 3/4" teflon rectangle. Then I used JB Weld to glue the bottom half to the block. I may eventually run a screw through that bottom half.
Costs:
- 10 feet of 1-1/4" conduit: $2.77 at Lowes. Most of it is left for future projects.
- Thin plastic tailpiece for sink: $3.85. I only needed the top three inches. The rest was used to make a sight tube for a friend's scope.
- #10 thumbscrew: about $1 for a pair.
- bondable 1/16" teflon, 6" x 12" sheet: $8.69 (all prices include tax). Obviously, most of the teflon is available for other projects.
I also used scrap wood, scrap particle board and JB Weld that I bought for other purposes.
Total cost if I were buying everything for this: $16.10. About half of that is teflon which I needed anyway for other parts of the project. If one prorates costs based on amount of material used (assuming the rest of the material eventually finds a use), I used 7 cents of PVC conduit, $1.05 of tailpiece, $0.50 worth of thumbscrew, $0.36 of teflon and probably $0.25-0.50 worth of adhesives.
Edited by arpruss (09/06/09 09:48 PM)
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artmustel
super member
   
Reged: 05/30/07
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Very nice, Arpruss. I'm following your idea and will make one too. I found a piece of 2" ID PVC and cut it to 3 1/2" long. Will post some pics later. Thanks!
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RossSackett
Pooh-Bah
   
Reged: 08/17/07
Loc: Memphis, TN
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crayfordjon and arpruss--These are fantastic, simple designs. Very elegant! Thanks for posting them.
Ross
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arpruss
Carpal Tunnel
   
Reged: 05/23/08
Loc: Waco, TX
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Quote:
Very nice, Arpruss. I'm following your idea and will make one too. I found a piece of 2" ID PVC and cut it to 3 1/2" long. Will post some pics later. Thanks!
Any suggestions how to get 2" ID PVC?
I don't have any 2" EPs right now, so I stuck with 1.25 for now.
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Crayfordjon
Vendor - Zerochromat
   
Reged: 06/17/09
Loc: UK
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Fantastic!!! Arpruss, thou art a man after my own heart. A wood CF is always on the cards, and who can beat it, well done. Two inch PVC pipe is available in the UK DYI stores, used as down pipe for guttering etc, also 68mm high impact PVC for heavier duty.
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arpruss
Carpal Tunnel
   
Reged: 05/23/08
Loc: Waco, TX
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Thanks for the kind words! I try to make things that are really cheap but work, with no regard for how they look.
I do have some stiction. I am thinking that aluminum on teflon is probably better than PVC on teflon. But much more expensive.
My next Crayfordish idea is a Lego-wheels helical Crayford. Basically, the exact same design, except the two non-adjustable blocks are set back half an inch and instead of teflon have Lego wheel pairs (with smooth rubber wheels on a 2x2 Lego block--available for about seven cents a pair plus shipping from various BrickLink vendors) epoxied to them, with their axes 7 degrees off the vertical. I've played around with Lego wheels and they seem to be able to handle a fairly large load. This would be a replacement for the Coulter push-pull plumbing parts focuser on my 8" Odyssey.
Edited by arpruss (09/07/09 10:18 AM)
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Crayfordjon
Vendor - Zerochromat
   
Reged: 06/17/09
Loc: UK
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Sounds good, tell me how you get on when the helical is up and running.
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arpruss
Carpal Tunnel
   
Reged: 05/23/08
Loc: Waco, TX
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For the helical version, I think I'll go for rollerboard bearings instead of Lego wheels. They're not much more expensive, and should have much less play. I can put them on a threaded rod which I can just epoxy to the wooden blocks.
Here's the push-pull focuser on my 8" travel scope OTA. I roughly completed the OTA tonight--my first reflector, hurrah!--and tried it out leaning it on my knee (no rocker box done yet). Focusing seemed to work well enough (though I didn't actually have to focus at first, I guess because I measured out the FL well enough that when I popped the eyepiece in, everything was immediately in focus). But my laser collimator had a fair amount of play in the focuser--I think a bit more than in the nice 2" R&P in my 13", but not too much for usability.

By the way, the twin poplar 1" square trusses were very solid--much better than I expected, though the final version will have to have segmented trusses to fit in a suitcase.
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Crayfordjon
Vendor - Zerochromat
   
Reged: 06/17/09
Loc: UK
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Nice job, nice simple design,these single truss scopes work very well, and are highly portable.
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