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Telescopeman54
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Re: How not to build a pier footer!
      02/11/08 11:06 PM

Just a few odd thoughts:

Have you tried filling the pier with sand? That may do the trick.

You may still need to isolate the pier by cutting the concrete. If so, remove the pier and as much stuff as possible. Cover everything with plastic drop clothes and then make a tent over the work area from more drop clothes. Use a concrete saw to cut away what's necessary. I would say two inches should do it. A shop vac with the nozzle held near the cutting device will help to keep the dust down, too.

I would also consider sacrificing the conduit. If the conduit is actually too large and you have plenty of room with all of the wires installed, you may be able to pull a slightly smaller piece of conduit through. As long as you have access to the area where the two pieces need to be sealed it should be an easy fix. However, if you can get to the cut off point on the conduit then you should be able to marry a new piece in place.

Next time, if ever, just remind the contractor that he's working for you and he will follow your instructions or he can take his concrete and let it harden in his truck!!

Personally, I think it's more savageable than you believe. It WILL take some hard work, but, it's not impossible.

By the way, did you ever consider mixing your own? Yes, it would have taken some time and been a back breaker of a job, but, it's not impossible.

CS

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* How not to build a pier footer! Scott K 02/11/08 03:24 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Digital Don   07/29/08 10:29 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! DeanS   07/31/08 11:21 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   07/31/08 11:57 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Bowmoreman   07/31/08 05:54 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/01/08 12:45 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/02/08 12:30 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/02/08 11:09 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Digital Don   08/02/08 04:20 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/02/08 04:48 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Manny Myles   08/02/08 08:21 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/02/08 10:47 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! jsmiller58   08/04/08 09:43 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/04/08 07:50 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! mikey cee   08/05/08 12:16 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/05/08 12:34 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/04/08 07:58 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! jsmiller58   08/04/08 11:04 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/05/08 12:17 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/05/08 12:34 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/05/08 12:41 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/05/08 01:10 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/05/08 01:21 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Dennis33   08/05/08 09:34 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Spoonsize   08/05/08 09:39 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/05/08 06:04 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! John Fitzgerald   08/05/08 07:47 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/05/08 07:54 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/07/08 02:52 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! John Fitzgerald   08/07/08 05:36 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/09/08 11:00 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/11/08 02:10 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/11/08 02:27 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/11/08 02:39 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/11/08 02:58 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! csa/montanaModerator   08/11/08 09:38 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/11/08 11:42 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! jsmiller58   08/11/08 03:45 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Joel   08/11/08 07:09 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/11/08 12:17 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Joel   08/11/08 12:44 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Galaxyhunter   08/11/08 01:06 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/11/08 01:24 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Spoonsize   08/11/08 01:50 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/11/08 02:01 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Pedestal   08/11/08 05:55 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! John Fitzgerald   08/11/08 07:16 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/11/08 11:56 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! jsmiller58   08/12/08 11:13 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Digital Don   08/12/08 08:21 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! mikey cee   08/12/08 08:34 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Digital Don   08/12/08 10:10 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! John Fitzgerald   08/12/08 10:26 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/12/08 11:40 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! David Johns   08/13/08 08:53 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! astrotrf   08/13/08 11:45 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! David Johns   08/13/08 08:19 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! astrotrf   08/14/08 09:36 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/14/08 05:01 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/14/08 06:00 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! jsmiller58   08/15/08 10:57 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/15/08 01:24 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/17/08 03:23 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Digital Don   08/17/08 09:54 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/18/08 12:19 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! jsmiller58   08/18/08 10:57 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Spoonsize   08/18/08 11:27 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! DeanS   08/18/08 12:53 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/18/08 04:02 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/24/08 01:26 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/24/08 02:17 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/31/08 07:51 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   09/02/08 02:19 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Pier-Tech Inc.   09/02/08 08:47 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! greg   09/02/08 11:22 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   09/02/08 01:33 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Joel   09/02/08 05:35 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! DeanS   09/02/08 06:16 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   09/04/08 01:46 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Chris SchroederModerator   09/04/08 02:30 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! astrotrf   09/04/08 02:47 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   09/04/08 05:10 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Jeff Young   09/02/08 05:51 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! 1965healey   09/02/08 07:15 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Bowmoreman   09/02/08 07:30 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   09/02/08 03:58 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Hornblower   08/18/08 09:38 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Pedestal   08/17/08 09:24 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Chris SchroederModerator   08/17/08 11:57 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/17/08 12:00 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! jsmiller58   08/17/08 03:55 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/14/08 06:34 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/14/08 07:04 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! TeleTex   08/14/08 02:43 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/13/08 11:01 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Digital Don   08/13/08 01:02 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/13/08 10:50 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! mikey cee   08/11/08 09:28 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/11/08 12:22 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! deSitter   08/11/08 07:52 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! John Fitzgerald   08/11/08 09:19 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Pedestal   08/07/08 03:55 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/07/08 04:14 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Luigi   08/07/08 04:35 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! mtb.daily   08/05/08 12:40 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   08/04/08 08:17 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! John Fitzgerald   08/04/08 09:34 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Spoonsize   08/02/08 01:32 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! JimHawkins   03/17/08 10:25 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! DeanS   03/17/08 11:55 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! mikey cee   03/17/08 11:44 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! NeoDinian   02/11/08 03:30 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   02/11/08 04:21 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Manny Myles   02/11/08 04:38 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Joe DeAugustine   02/11/08 05:03 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   02/11/08 05:24 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Bowmoreman   02/11/08 05:53 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   02/11/08 06:06 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Bowmoreman   02/12/08 12:42 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   02/12/08 12:58 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Bowmoreman   02/12/08 09:30 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! JerryWise   02/12/08 11:55 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Bowmoreman   02/13/08 05:34 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! JerryWise   02/13/08 08:13 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   02/13/08 11:27 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! mikey cee   02/13/08 01:49 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   02/14/08 11:51 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Spoonsize   03/17/08 11:43 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/17/08 10:46 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Pedestal   03/18/08 03:16 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/18/08 06:16 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/26/08 05:39 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! greg   03/27/08 03:00 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! greg   03/27/08 03:21 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/27/08 03:58 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/29/08 03:48 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Pedestal   03/29/08 10:02 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/30/08 02:28 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Pedestal   03/30/08 05:13 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/30/08 10:19 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Pedestal   03/31/08 11:53 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Manny Myles   03/30/08 06:42 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/30/08 10:20 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Manny Myles   03/31/08 07:10 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! 1965healey   03/31/08 11:01 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/31/08 03:18 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! mikey cee   03/31/08 05:09 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/31/08 05:23 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! 1965healey   03/31/08 06:03 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/31/08 07:32 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! 1965healey   03/31/08 07:45 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   03/31/08 08:37 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! 1965healey   03/31/08 10:55 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   04/01/08 01:56 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! 1965healey   04/01/08 01:47 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Scott K   04/01/08 05:55 PM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Spaz   04/02/08 02:17 AM
. * Re: How not to build a pier footer! Chris SchroederModerator   04/02/08 01:15 PM
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