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BobinKy
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Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope?
      05/10/08 03:07 PM

The question of binoculars versus spotting scope has been on my mind for over a year. Last month and today I did some mini tests.

In the binocular corner
    Pentax DCF ED 10x50
    Exit pupil: 5.0
    Advertised FOV: 5.0
    Apparent FOV: 49.7
    Close focus: 11.5 ft.
    Weight: 30.5 oz
    Height: 6.7 inches
    Width: 5.2 inches
    Waterproof: Yes
    Eye relief: 22.0
    Price: $787.50 (now mostly seen above $1000.00)
    Warranty: Lifetime

    Fujinon Polaris FMT-SX 16x70
    Exit pupil: 4.4
    Advertised FOV: 4.0
    Apparent FOV: 63.4
    Close focus: 36.0 ft.
    Weight: 76.1 oz
    Height: 10.7 inches
    Width: 9.8 inches
    Waterproof: Yes
    Eye relief: 15.5
    Price: $685.00 (also seen in the $500.00s)
    Warranty: Lifetime
In the Spotting Scope corner
    Kowa TSN-661
    Glass: Normal (non ED)
    View: Angled
    Eyepiece: 30x Wide (fixed, non zoom)
    Aperture: 66mm
    Exit pupil: 2.2
    Advertised FOV: 2.4
    Apparent FOV: 72.0
    Close focus: 19.7 ft.
    Weight: 35.6 oz
    Length: 12.2 inches
    Waterproof: Yes
    Eye relief: 20.0
    Price: $828.00 (including eyepiece and canvas case)
    Warranty: Lifetime
Round 1: American White Pelicans
    Pentax 10x50 binoculars mounted on a Manfrotto 679B monopod / 3232 adjustable head displays a flock of large white birds landing in the water on the opposite shore of Kentucky Lake, approximately 2000 yards distance. The only distinguishing details are the count of the birds (27) and the white color of their plumage; the color and shape of their bills and feet are not apparent. As good as the Pentax binocular is, it cannot reach the distant shore and fails to earn an identification, which amounts to the unpardonable among several bird watchers perched behind me on park benches.

    Kowa 30x66 spotting scope mounted on a Bogen 3001 camera tripod / 3126 fluid head displays the incoming flock to be American White Pelicans Pelecanus erythrorhynchos. A fact which welcomes me back into the fold squawking at my back. Identification was possible because the Kowa spotting scope brought into view the unique shape and color of the bill and curve of the neck.
Round 2: Where are the Red Tail Hawks?
    Round 2 returns to the location of Round 5 in Fujinon FMT-SX 16x70 vs. Garrett Signature 22x85 .

    Fujinon SMT-SX 16x70 binocular mounted on a Manfrotto 3246 tripod / 501 fluid head displays a dead Chinkapin Oak, Quercus muehlenbergii Engelm, located on a rolling hillside overlooking the Kentucky River. The oak lies 1075 yards due South of my location. On May 1, I observed a pair of Red Tail Hawks on a limb in this tree. However, today the pair of hawks are no where to be seen. So I study the 4.0° FOV for other detail. A large hole is discovered in the trunk of the tree. The Fujinon binocular provides enough detail to see that this hole may provide entrance for some animal into the hollow of the tree. The panorama of the 4.0° FOV is nice.

    Kowa 30x66 spotting scope mounted on a Bogen 3001 camera tripod / 3126 fluid head displays the dead Oak and the large hole in the trunk. The image size is approximately 10% larger than in the Fujinon binocular. However, the 2.4° FOV of the Kowa scope fails to satisfy as much as the Fujinon binocular. I am surprised at how similar in size the two images are—16x vs. 30x. However, this is what Kenny Jones must be talking about when he points how two eyes make the brain appear to function more effectively.
Round 3: Robin on the lawn
    Fujinon 16x70 binocular fails to display a Robin on the lawn 25 feet away. The bird is too close for the Fujinon binocular to focus, even if the bird remains stationary long enough to focus each eyecup independently.

    Kowa 30x66 spotting scope quickly swings around on the Bogen tripod and focuses with alarming sharpness within 3 seconds. I am amazed at how fast the focusing knob on the top of the scope actually functions. The sun is shining and the Kowa scope provides plenty of detail to the bird’s feathers. The bright sheen of the small feathers of the Robin’s crown is stunning, an observation I have never seen on a robin before.
Conclusion
    The Fujinon FMT-SX 16x70 binocular brings in almost as much detail at 1075 yards as the Kowa TSN-661 spotting scope. What’s more the wider FOV and ease of using both eyes gives Round 2 to the Fujinon. When sparring with the Pentax DCF ED 10x50 at 2000 yards the Kowa scope easily wins Round 1. When it comes to up close detail on the lawn in Round 3, the Kowa scope also wins.

    Yes, I agree with Joe O and others, the serious terrestrial observer definitely needs a spotting scope as well as a collection of different purpose binoculars.


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Bob
38° Kentucky, USA



Edited by BobinKy (05/10/08 06:41 PM)

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* Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Welshieinnz 05/03/08 07:15 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? BobinKy   05/10/08 03:07 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Rick   05/10/08 05:08 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Joe Ogiba   05/10/08 08:47 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Rick   05/10/08 09:28 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Joe Ogiba   05/11/08 09:24 AM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Luigi   05/11/08 12:03 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? BobinKy   05/10/08 06:39 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Rick   05/10/08 07:33 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Wes James   05/11/08 12:13 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Rick   05/11/08 05:35 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Wes James   05/11/08 06:57 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Tony Flanders   05/03/08 10:26 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Welshieinnz   05/04/08 02:18 AM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Tony Flanders   05/04/08 08:29 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Welshieinnz   05/05/08 03:49 AM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Tony Flanders   05/05/08 10:07 AM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? rookie   05/05/08 09:34 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Joe Ogiba   05/05/08 09:08 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? BobinKy   05/04/08 09:59 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? mttafire   05/04/08 09:15 PM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Joe Ogiba   05/05/08 08:22 AM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? mttafire   05/05/08 09:30 AM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? edwincjones   05/04/08 06:52 AM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Joe Ogiba   05/04/08 09:15 AM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? KennyJ   05/04/08 07:16 AM
. * Re: Binoculars or a good spotting or field scope? Joe Ogiba   05/03/08 10:05 PM

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