Return to the Cloudy Nights Telescope Reviews home page

Click here if you are having trouble logging into the forums

Privacy Policy | Please read our Terms of Service | Signup and Troubleshooting FAQ | Problems? PM a Red or a Green Gu.... uh, User

Equipment Discussions >> ATM, Optics and DIY Forum

jpcannavo
sage


Reged: 02/21/05
Posts: 324
Loc: Long Island New York
Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces
      07/03/08 07:36 AM

Quote:

But the dielectric on the primary would not be wise, as the stress is quite high - to ensure the maintenance of the figure the primary would be much thicker than would be ideal. A high-quality enhanced coating won't stress the primary and will work quite well.

Best,
Mark



Mark
That is the first explanation along such lines as to why dielectrics are not used on primaries...I have always wondered about this, and have never been entirely satisfied with the "if you make a mistake they are to hard to strip off" explanation, although this is probably true as well.
Also glad to hear you affirm the qualities of the on-axis performance of the paraboloid. I always wonder why certain implicit notions to the contrary don't go unchallenged.
Consider this one: It needs to be a Mak-newt to compete (on-axis) with an apo.
Why should this be so?
1) For a given focal ratio/field illumination the central obstruction is the same.
2) Yes, spherical surfaces are easier to make – but equally good aspheres are being made
by the likes of a couple of guys named Mark, and a few others.
3) Sure, there are no “visible” diffraction spikes – but this is a non-MTF-altering cosmetic issue.
4) And getting back to the spirit of this thread – two more optical surfaces, and a closed tube to boot.
Now none of this is to suggest that MNs are not outstanding planetary scopes – they are. But they should be no better on-axis than a simple newt of equal aperture/f-ratio, and equal wavefront error.
And then there are those Tak Mewlons – don’t get me started...
Joe

--------------------
Joseph Cannavo
16" F5 Zambuto, front collimating, scope nearly complete - WSP here we come!
16" F5 Royce, conical blank, front collimating (Mirror Sold)
10" F5 Dob
Mid 70's RV-6
4" Orion 100mm ED
Mr Keeyoots (My Cat)


Post Extras Print Post   Remind Me!     Notify Moderator

Entire thread
Subject Posted by Posted on
* The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy 06/30/08 03:47 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/05/08 04:57 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces nytecam   07/02/08 02:23 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/02/08 05:29 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces mark cowan   07/03/08 01:16 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Starkler   07/04/08 11:22 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces mark cowan   07/04/08 02:14 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/04/08 06:15 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/03/08 07:12 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces jpcannavo   07/03/08 07:36 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/03/08 07:36 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces mark cowan   07/03/08 08:14 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces mark cowan   07/02/08 01:32 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/02/08 05:23 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces mark cowan   07/03/08 01:03 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/03/08 07:01 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Don WModerator   06/30/08 04:02 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   06/30/08 04:26 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Biff   06/30/08 08:29 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces wallie x   07/05/08 04:35 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces mark cowan   07/05/08 11:18 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/08/08 01:11 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces DAVIDG   07/08/08 02:42 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/08/08 04:11 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces DAVIDG   07/09/08 12:03 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/10/08 06:02 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces DAVIDG   07/10/08 07:45 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/13/08 06:40 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces mark cowan   07/14/08 01:29 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces sixela   07/14/08 08:47 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces mark cowan   07/14/08 01:21 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/15/08 11:11 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/15/08 12:35 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces sixela   07/15/08 05:21 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Owen   07/16/08 04:45 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces sixela   07/16/08 06:17 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Owen   07/16/08 06:55 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces sixela   07/16/08 07:03 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/16/08 07:15 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/22/08 03:42 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/14/08 08:36 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces sixela   07/14/08 09:39 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Almagne   07/09/08 12:51 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces DAVIDG   07/09/08 03:15 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/02/08 05:21 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HiggsBoson   07/01/08 12:54 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Houdini   07/01/08 07:31 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/02/08 05:30 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces DAVIDG   07/02/08 09:38 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/03/08 06:58 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces mark cowan   07/03/08 01:30 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/03/08 07:30 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Fiske   07/03/08 07:37 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces mark cowan   07/03/08 05:14 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Fiske   07/04/08 12:21 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Fiske   07/04/08 12:25 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Chriske   07/03/08 08:02 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/05/08 04:33 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces DAVIDG   07/05/08 10:20 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/05/08 11:45 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces DAVIDG   07/05/08 01:13 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces HandyAndy   07/06/08 08:44 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces DAVIDG   07/06/08 10:54 AM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces mark cowan   07/03/08 05:18 PM
. * Re: The 'Best' telescope and eyepieces Chriske   07/02/08 09:50 AM

Extra information
11 registered and 9 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Don W, Joe Cipriano 



Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Thread views: 1635


Jump to

Home



Cloudy Nights Sponsor: Astronomics