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Dane B
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Re: What drives an atom?
      07/13/08 08:02 AM

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Another interesting related topic:

Scientists have been pushing the limits in trying to make the shortest pulse of light possible. They think that it may be possible, with good fortune, that a pulse of light can be made which is shorter in duration than the predicted orbit times of electrons in certain atoms (probably larger ones with longer orbital times, not hydrogen), and take a "picture" of sorts to see if an electron or proton has a definite position with time. They'd probably get a blur, and it wouldn't really be an image in the conventional sense. They think they can get one pulse down to the orbital time of one electron around a hydrogen nucleus. It was a funny unit of time, like 22 yoctoseconds, don't count on my being completely correct. From what I remember, the shortest pulse was about two wavelengths, of whatever wavelength of light they were working with. Hopefully it wasn't shortwave. I imagine it was of a visible wavelength or less. Might be something interesting to look up.




I thought up almost the exact same experiment just yesterday! In addition to their goal of seeing if one could track the electron, I would be interested in seeing if the electron could be located in two "distant" parts of the orbital within such a short time interval that the electron would have had to travel faster than light to actually move from one part of the orbital to the other.

A positive finding would be a pretty strong piece of evidence for the "the orbital is the electron" crowd.

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* What drives an atom? Taqyon 07/11/08 05:07 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? deSitter   07/22/08 09:19 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Taqyon   07/24/08 07:42 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/13/08 01:14 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Taqyon   07/13/08 11:37 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Dane B   07/11/08 06:17 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Taqyon   07/11/08 06:38 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Joad   07/11/08 09:33 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? stefsaber   07/12/08 10:21 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Dane B   07/12/08 06:36 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? stefsaber   07/12/08 09:19 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? jupiterzkool   07/12/08 10:02 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? UWastronomer   07/12/08 10:24 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Dane B   07/13/08 08:02 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/13/08 11:11 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Dane B   07/14/08 06:13 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/15/08 01:43 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Taqyon   07/15/08 05:44 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/15/08 10:14 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Taqyon   07/17/08 07:10 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Pess   07/15/08 10:35 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Dane B   07/16/08 06:05 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/16/08 11:56 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Dane B   07/17/08 06:50 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/17/08 10:13 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? jayscheuerle   07/15/08 03:32 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Pess   07/16/08 10:39 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Taqyon   07/17/08 07:14 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/17/08 11:04 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? llanitedaveModerator   07/17/08 02:58 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Joad   07/17/08 11:28 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Pess   07/18/08 12:21 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/18/08 12:43 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Taqyon   07/17/08 11:19 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/17/08 10:04 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Taqyon   07/18/08 07:43 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/18/08 11:20 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Taqyon   07/19/08 06:19 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? jupiterzkool   07/19/08 05:54 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Taqyon   07/24/08 07:37 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Dane B   07/19/08 08:01 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/19/08 01:30 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Dane B   07/26/08 07:24 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/28/08 05:31 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Dane B   07/28/08 08:52 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   08/04/08 07:20 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Qkslvr   07/28/08 10:30 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? nimthor   07/26/08 09:58 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? star drop   07/27/08 01:58 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Pess   07/28/08 02:33 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Qkslvr   07/28/08 10:11 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Dane B   08/04/08 09:13 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   08/04/08 10:12 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? llanitedaveModerator   08/04/08 10:38 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Qkslvr   08/05/08 12:55 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Taqyon   07/24/08 07:36 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Pess   07/17/08 05:39 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? stefsaber   07/13/08 12:06 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? astrotrf   07/21/08 07:19 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? HiggsBoson   07/22/08 01:51 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? astrotrf   07/22/08 01:40 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Pess   07/24/08 10:56 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Qkslvr   07/25/08 11:51 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Pess   07/25/08 12:38 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Qkslvr   07/25/08 01:30 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Pess   07/25/08 02:06 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Qkslvr   07/25/08 02:33 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? llanitedaveModerator   07/26/08 03:47 AM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Pess   07/29/08 01:58 PM
. * Re: What drives an atom? Qkslvr   07/28/08 10:24 AM
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