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Re: The Trouble with the Magazines
      08/07/08 11:27 AM

Over the past couple days I've had a chance to reread carefully all the contributions to this long and thought-inspiring thread. Not least impressive is the literary level of these contributions--a lot of it is blamed good writing!! It is evidence that there is some good stuff on the Internet. (And a great tribute to the readership of CN.)
Of course you have to dig through a lot of blue mud to find the diamonds. And the mottos still have to be "buyer beware" and "you get what you pay for"--because I've seen a surprising numbers of typos and errors in fact even on the web sites of places like the University of Chicago Oriental Institute and the British Museum. They face the question of how much time (money) to invest in proofreading texts on such a disposable medium as the Internet.
One of the recurrent themes of this thread has been the difference between words and images and a computer screen and words and images on paper. It comes down to a sense of permanence: to destroy the words and images on a computer screen all you have to do is move a finger; but if you want to destroy a piece of paper you at least have to go to the kitchen for a match. And have you ever tried to burn a book?--they fight for life. It's wonderful. (This is one of the themes of Terry Pratchett's splendid DiscWorld novel "Going Postal.")
So long as people enjoy words and the things they say, there will always be a place for hard copy. And one of the evidences for that affirmation I offer would be this thread.
But are there enough people today who like serious amateur astronomy to keep two magazines afloat? A couple writers above mentioned the change in culture in America between the 1960s and today. Around 1970 my senior high school, with a total enrollment of less than 500 students , offered SIX full years of sciences. In the 1990s that same school, with more than twice the enrollment, offered just TWO years. The society as a whole does not encourage its youth to pursue science (or any other intellectual curiosity) with the same enthusiasm and conviction it did several decades ago. I suspect and fear that the troubles with the astronomy magazines reflect a deeper and more sinister problem than just the economics of the publishing industry.

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* The Trouble with the Magazines Mike LofflandAdministrator 06/30/08 03:17 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines 928rob   07/09/08 06:59 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines mtngoat62   07/05/08 10:12 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines jake47   07/04/08 04:47 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Glassthrower   07/05/08 10:19 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines MikeRatcliff   07/02/08 04:23 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Tony Flanders   07/02/08 09:32 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines GJJim   07/01/08 11:26 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Larry Geary   07/02/08 11:26 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Larry F   07/02/08 12:09 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Joe Bergeron   07/02/08 05:28 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Wes James   07/02/08 05:40 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Fiske   07/02/08 05:37 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Joe Bergeron   07/02/08 05:54 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Larry F   07/02/08 06:43 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Tom TrusockAdministrator   07/02/08 06:26 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Joe Bergeron   07/02/08 07:23 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Tom TrusockAdministrator   07/02/08 07:41 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Wes James   07/02/08 08:16 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Tom TrusockAdministrator   07/02/08 08:26 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines RogerLaureys   07/03/08 04:14 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines spaceydeeModerator   07/02/08 06:34 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Jay_Bird   07/02/08 06:16 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Tony Flanders   07/03/08 07:54 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines bobhen   07/03/08 10:17 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines desertstarsAdministrator   07/02/08 07:04 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Tony Flanders   07/02/08 03:09 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Fiske   07/02/08 03:50 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines swalker   07/02/08 12:25 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines photonovore   07/02/08 02:49 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines llanitedave   07/02/08 04:02 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Rick Woods   07/02/08 01:45 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Fiske   07/02/08 02:28 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines auriga   07/29/08 10:28 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Gordon Rayner   07/02/08 02:08 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines swalker   07/02/08 02:03 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Larry F   07/02/08 01:42 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines EJN   07/01/08 12:17 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines mcoren   07/01/08 12:54 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Jeff Morgan   07/01/08 06:11 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Alan K   07/01/08 12:34 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Glen A W   07/30/08 10:53 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Newstar One   07/09/08 02:28 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Jeff Morgan   07/09/08 10:35 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Newstar One   07/23/08 06:07 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines mcoren   07/23/08 08:06 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Jim Cook   07/23/08 11:47 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Glen A W   07/25/08 09:39 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines swalker   07/10/08 08:11 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Mr. Mike   07/09/08 04:26 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines chexmix   07/09/08 07:24 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Mr. Mike   07/10/08 08:57 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines chexmix   07/10/08 12:48 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines spaceydeeModerator   07/09/08 09:57 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Rick Woods   07/09/08 06:09 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines DavidWasch   07/03/08 01:11 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Fiske   07/03/08 02:09 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Jay_Bird   07/03/08 02:56 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines mcoren   07/03/08 04:24 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines PhilH   07/05/08 02:06 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Larry Geary   07/05/08 10:50 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines PhilH   07/06/08 08:30 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Jeff Morgan   07/06/08 10:57 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines GJJim   07/06/08 03:37 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines swalker   07/06/08 07:28 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines desertstarsAdministrator   07/07/08 11:24 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines kfred   07/08/08 06:11 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines PhilH   07/08/08 06:39 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines PhilH   07/07/08 08:55 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines howard   07/06/08 08:20 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Rick Woods   07/07/08 08:30 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Rick Woods   07/06/08 08:17 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines photonovore   07/06/08 07:24 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Joel   07/05/08 03:37 PM
. * Sky & Telescope binding Rick Woods   07/05/08 09:22 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines CalAstro   07/01/08 11:55 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines peashooter   07/30/08 01:27 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines kenren10   07/31/08 02:07 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Crossen   08/04/08 11:06 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines auriga   08/09/08 03:19 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Crossen   08/11/08 11:59 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines auriga   08/06/08 01:07 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Crossen   08/07/08 11:27 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines PDG   08/08/08 10:40 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Jay_Bird   08/05/08 01:43 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Rick Woods   08/05/08 10:11 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines John Jarosz   08/05/08 07:49 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Jeff Morgan   07/30/08 03:17 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines rmollise   07/02/08 04:28 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines highfnum   07/01/08 07:22 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines ckwastro   07/01/08 08:04 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines RRaubach   07/01/08 08:59 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Jay_Bird   07/01/08 09:34 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Nick Lloyd   07/01/08 09:41 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Mr. Bill   07/01/08 11:00 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Larry F   07/02/08 06:41 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Wes James   07/02/08 09:34 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines brianclose   07/01/08 04:05 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Pedestal   06/30/08 06:22 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Jay_Bird   06/30/08 09:14 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Bob K   06/30/08 10:15 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines naglertized   06/30/08 10:38 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines xrayvizhen   06/30/08 10:51 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines stevecoe   07/01/08 02:04 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Cygnus_x1   07/01/08 11:57 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Marco Frissen   07/01/08 04:56 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Argonavis   07/01/08 07:06 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines NorthCoast   07/01/08 10:26 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines chexmix   06/30/08 09:38 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines RRaubach   06/30/08 09:48 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Larry Geary   06/30/08 05:39 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines cpsTN   07/03/08 06:56 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines swalker   07/04/08 06:34 AM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines GJJim   07/04/08 04:34 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Jeff Morgan   07/04/08 04:12 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines Rick Woods   07/04/08 12:07 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines gordon   06/30/08 06:03 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines waterskies   06/30/08 06:16 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines phanfave   06/30/08 03:55 PM
. * Re: The Trouble with the Magazines o1d_dude   06/30/08 04:56 PM

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