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Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4
      08/10/08 04:43 PM

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I've owned both, and my T5 lasted one week. IMO the 16T5 is just not in the same league with the 17T4!

I now own all of the T4s, and I just won't put up with the short eye relief and small eye lenses of the T5 and T6 Naglers.

Bob





Hmm. I just did an extensive comparison between the 16T5 and the 17T4 in my 12.5":
--the 16 was sharper everywhere in the field of view. I expected to see more seeing issues (because the magnification is higher), but saw tinier, more pinpoint stars.
--the 16 was uniformly illuminated to the edge of the field, while the 17 did not seem so. The edge of the 17 seems to have a different shade of gray in the background of the star field.
--the 16 showed no astigmatism at the edge, and no field curvature, while the 17 had both (small quantities compared to cheap widefields, but there nonetheless)
--the 17 needs to have the eyecup pulled up a bit to avoid having your eye drift accidentally too close to the lens (producing blackouts or kidny beaning), while the 16 is just fine exactly as is.
--I could see color in star images more easily in the 16. This could be magnification.

Having seen that, I'm keeping the 16 and selling the 17 (see S&S Forum). I should note I do not wear glasses, and the distance vision in my observing eye is 20/15, and I have zero astigmatism in that eye.

I agree they are not in the same league--the 16 is better.

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Don Pensack
12.5" Truss Dob, 5" Maksutov
Sustaining Lifetime IDA member, TeleVue junkie


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* 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 2" Satisfied 08/08/08 02:25 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 2" Paul G   08/10/08 10:26 AM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 2" kfred   08/10/08 11:55 AM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Jeff Morgan   08/09/08 03:30 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 2" Shrader   08/08/08 02:35 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Bob W6PU   08/08/08 03:11 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Starman1   08/10/08 04:43 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Jason BModerator   08/11/08 10:42 AM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Albie   08/09/08 11:32 AM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 F.Meiresonne   08/09/08 05:29 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Albie   08/10/08 02:51 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Downward Bound   08/09/08 06:03 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Scott Watson   08/09/08 09:46 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 helpwanted   08/09/08 12:23 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Satisfied   08/11/08 12:08 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Albie   08/11/08 12:10 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Covey32   08/11/08 12:25 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Albie   08/11/08 08:03 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 KWB   08/11/08 09:03 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 coutleef   08/12/08 09:22 AM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Starman1   08/12/08 12:42 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 coutleef   08/12/08 12:59 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 jcjr   08/13/08 02:31 AM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 coutleef   08/13/08 09:14 AM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 jcjr   08/13/08 07:35 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 coutleef   08/14/08 09:42 AM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Alan K   08/12/08 04:48 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 jcjr   08/12/08 10:52 AM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Albie   08/10/08 02:55 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 jcjr   08/10/08 03:03 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Albie   08/11/08 11:57 AM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 RAKing   08/09/08 01:18 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Mark Jenkins   08/08/08 02:59 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 amys   08/08/08 03:04 PM
. * Re: 16mm Nagler Type 5 1.25" or 17mm Nagler Type 4 Shawn H   08/08/08 03:09 PM

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