Hey Don! I have to thank you for the advise. You bet I'm going to keep tryin. Now, everytime I take a peek at M42 I see more and more detail. I can't imagen what that views are like in 16" or larger instruments.
M27 sounds like a good challenge. It will be winter by then in the southern hemisphere. I've only seen it with the 80 mm, and last winter I was too cold and lazy to find it again with the 6" (although I did try)
What about M8?
-------------------- Diego
Celestron 80 mm f11.4
Oberwerk 20x90
6" f7.8 Reflector