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Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view
      04/17/08 01:53 AM

Thanks David, you are of course correct in many details.

Given the frequency of those new to solar observation and asking this same question of using nebula/white light filters to view the sun, I was trying to keep the concepts simplified, as the details may tend to bewilder a person new to solar filters, and unfamiliar with solar physics and spectroscopy.

I might disagree about the visibility of the Ca H & K lines, as these are in a part of the spectrum the eye is even less sensitive too than the H alpha line, as you note.

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It might be a little more general to say that the reason broader "nebula" H-alpha filters won't show the chromospheric detail is that they are letting in a little too much off-band light from the photosphere. That light is basically "drowning out" the weaker chromosphere... With a regular white-light solar filter, you would, of course, dim the chromospheric emission, but the H-alpha filter would still be letting in too much light from wavelengths well away from the H-alpha centerline, and that is the crux of the problem.




The off-band contamination of a broad-band H alpha nebula filter used with a white light filter is irrelevant and only adds insult to injury: chromospheric details and prominences will be invisible with a white light filter because they are rendered 100,000 to 1,000,000 times fainter than they otherwise would be. That's why during the totality phase of a solar eclipse you do not see anything through a telescope equiped with a white light filter, where there is no side band contamination whatsoever.

This is easy to verify, since a narrow-band H alpha filter passes ~ 95% + of the H alpha emission -- just place a white light filter in front of your PST or other H alpha solar filtered telescope -- there will be no image to observe, even without photosphereic side band contamination.

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* Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar viewing? BYoesle 04/16/08 04:59 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar viewing? Mark Strollo   05/31/08 02:58 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view mischief   08/19/08 06:55 PM
. * Re: Using a Nigh H-Alpha filter for Solar viewing? colinsk   05/31/08 06:34 PM
. * Re: Using a Nigh H-Alpha filter for Solar viewing? moron392   07/16/08 10:13 AM
. * Re: Using a Nigh H-Alpha filter for Solar viewing? colinsk   07/31/08 12:11 AM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view David Knisely   04/16/08 09:40 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view BYoesle   04/17/08 01:53 AM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view David Knisely   04/19/08 01:58 AM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view Ralph Marantino   04/18/08 10:06 AM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view MikeBu   04/19/08 05:13 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view AKP   04/23/08 10:34 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view David Knisely   04/23/08 11:16 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view AKP   04/23/08 11:52 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view MikeBu   04/24/08 04:55 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view DesertRat   04/26/08 06:25 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view colinsk   04/28/08 10:41 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view colinsk   04/24/08 08:26 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view BYoesle   04/25/08 07:57 AM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view MikeBu   04/25/08 02:32 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view colinsk   04/25/08 02:43 PM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view colinsk   04/26/08 01:59 AM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view blackhaz   04/18/08 10:11 AM
. * Re: Using a Nightime H-Alpha filter for Solar view colinsk   04/18/08 10:30 AM

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