Jump to content

  •  

- - - - -

Meade ETX-125 Follow-up


Discuss this article in our forums
Meade ETX-125 UHTC Follow-up
by Duncan Rosie

I have no affiliation with or commercial interest in any of the companies mentioned in this review, nor any of their distributors or resellers.

Introduction

Since posting my original review of my Meade ETX-125 UHTC eighteen months ago I have received numerous emails enquiring about the continued performance of the little scope and asking whether I am still happy with it.

Let me start by saying that I am still very pleased with this telescope and it performs very well, punching well above it's weight in my opinion. It is a favourite at star parties and invariably offers the sharpest views of the planets and Moon when in the company of 8" SCT's and similarly priced dobs.

This follow-up describes my experiences with the ETX as well as some techniques and accessories I've found useful. A lot of what I'll say here is echoed in the ETX discussion forum here on Cloudynights and any new ETX user or prospective owner will do well to browse this forum.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My ETX did not have an auspicious start:

* The dreaded "Motor Unit Fault" was frequently seen,
* GOTO was pretty hit or miss, and then
* The RA drive bracket cracked.

These very common issues are all discussed in the original review and have all been resolved and have not re-appeared.

Motor Unit Fault

The "Motor Unit Fault" on my ETX was related to the cracked drive bracket - since the motor assembly was replaced by Meade this has not been an issue.
When I remounted the motor unit I did leave out one of the screws to allow the unit to "centre" itself more easily in the worm drive shaft - this prevents it binding on the shaft which was the cause of the initial problem. I don't recommend you do this as your mileage may vary, but it has worked for me.

GOTO accuracy

This depends primarily on four things that should be done at the start of EACH observing session:

  1. Don't use the internal AA batteries, rather run from a 7Ah or larger power tank type battery pack.
  2. CALIBRATE MOTORS!
  3. TRAIN DRIVES!
  4. Level the tripod/fork base and also level the optical tube with a spirit level.

Finding an accurate North is also important (and not that easy down here in the Southern Hemisphere), but following the four steps above will pretty much solve most GOTO issues. Quite often the alignment stars selected will seem quite far off in the finderscope but once centered and the "Alignment successful" message appears the GOTO accuracy is good from then on.

What can be seen with an ETX-125?

There are many positive observing reports on the ETX forum lauding the ETX's ability to resolve separation in double stars, detail on planets and detail on the Moon, globular clusters, etc.

The major determinant in what you can see with your ETX is not the eyepieces or accessories, it is the quality of the sky you are observing under. From my backyard in light polluted Durban, South Africa, I can't find 47 Tucanae with the naked (glasses assisted) eye but it is an impressive globular that is quite bright in the eyepiece. On a moonless night at Hotazel in the Southern Kalahari, 47 Tuc is easily seen with the naked eye and is quite overwhelming at the eyepiece.

At Hotazel the Milky Way stretched from horizon to horizon across the entire Western sky. With a completely unobstructed view in all directions, I let the "Tonight's Best" guided tour take over and the ETX found EVERY object (I did skip the black holes and quasars) in the FOV of the Meade 15mm QX 70¡ eyepiece. I saw more that night than I have in the last year or two, simply amazing.

The ETX is not great at nebulae, the f/15 focal ratio and 125 mm aperture do not make this a widefield light bucket. Side by side, my old Orion 90 mm f/10 refractor offered better views of Eta Carinae and the Orion nebula than the ETX-125 using the same Scopetronix 40 mm plossl. Obviously a decent widefield eyepiece like the 24 mm Panoptic would help, but if nebulae are your thing then have a look at a fast dob!

I had the opportunity to do a side by side comparison under reasonably dark skies at 1600 m altitude with an Orion XT10 Intelliscope. On the Orion nebula (using a 24 mm Panoptic in both scopes) the ETX was blown away by the dob. However, on the Trapezium (with a 13 mm Nagler T6) it was a different matter and the ETX easily found the E component and one observer claimed the F component with averted vision but I couldn't see it.

Eyepieces for the ETX

This is a hardy perennial on the ETX forum and there is also a lot of info in the Eyepieces section on Mike Weasner's excellent site at http://www.weasner.com/etx - here are my impressions of eyepieces I've used on my ETX:

* Meade eyepiece kit - a bargain at $99 and my favourites in this bunch of plossls are the 15 mm down to the 6.4 mm. The latter is quite useful for me on the planets as my eyesight (such as it is) prefers image scale to anything else. At 300x the 6.4 mm can offer sharp views when seeing permits. I am not fond of the 32 mm and 40 mm, preferring the Scopetronix 40 mm which I have which has superior coatings, adjustable eyeguard, and doesn't black out.
* Meade QX 70¡ series - I have the 15 mm which is small, light and offers sharp, contrasty views at night. It is my preferred general purpose eyepiece in the ETX. It does have some gunk in it which is visible when observing the sun. Most of the budget-minded widefield eyepieces are not favourably reviewed in faster telescopes, but at f/15 the ETX simply doesn't show up the major flaws of these designs and they are excellent choices for this telescope.
* Televue Panoptic - I had the pleasure of using a 24 mm for an evening, fabulous eyepiece, the ETX loves it and so do I.
* Televue Nagler - on the same evening of the 24 Pan I got to use the 13 mm T6 - you can think up your own superlatives here, they will all apply!

I haven't had the chance to use any orthoscopics yet and would love to try the UO series and the TMB/Burgess planetaries in the 10 - 5 mm range although I suspect that the 7 mm would offer the most image quality for magnification in the ETX.


Accessorise your ETX!


If you enjoy upgrading, fiddling, adjusting and experimenting then the ETX is the telescope for you. A visit to the Scopetronix web site reveals a whole host of bits and bobs you can get specifically for the ETX. Here is what I have succumbed to (so far):

* Meade ETX dewshield - an essential, this should be a standard item. This plastic dewshield screws onto the front of the ETX and is effective at keeping stray light and dew of the corrector plate. It could be improved by some internal baffling and a less reflective surface but it works well nonetheless.
* Scopetronix Flexfocus - another essential. This greatly reduces the focusing wiggles (vibration, but not image shift due to mirror movement) and makes focusing much easier, especially near the zenith.
* Webcam adapter - see the astrophotography section below.
* T adapter - ditto.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I plan on getting next includes vibration reduction pads, piggyback camera mount, 4 in 1 Multi-mate alignment tool, accessory tray (for the Autostar bracket) and a screw in solar filter (I have a home made Baader film equipped one which does the job but doesn't quite look the part). A good pair of 20x80 binoculars will hopefully see off most of the wide field yearnings!

Photography with the ETX

A check through the ETX and photography forums here on Cloudynights will show that some intrepid individuals are taking fantastic astrophotos with their ETX as the optical train and tracking platform. This must take them a lot of time, practice and patience for I must confess that my astrophotography attempts have been, as yet, decidedly unspectacular.

I don't think the ETX mount was designed with any kind of imaging in mind:

* In Alt/Az mode there is no clearance for a camera unless it is mounted at the eyepiece.
* In Polar mode the whole thing looks like it is going to fall over at any moment (not to mention the latitude adjustment in 5¡ increments).

I have attached my Logitech 4000 webcam and imaged Jupiter with some success and have also directly coupled my Olympus E-300 and imaged the Moon but struggled to achieve accurate focus (over several attempts, including using a Hartmann mask, mirror lock-up, etc.). I need to spend more time at this, practice, and learn to be more patient. Alternately, I should probably sell the house, car and kids and invest in a second setup (like a TOA-130, EM200 and SBIG camera, hmmmÉ might have to sell the dogs as well.).

My next attempts will be to piggyback the E-300 to the ETX and try some unguided short exposure shots and some guided (with the webcam in the eyepiece as the guider) longer exposure shots, sometime when I have the time and am feeling patient enough. It does make a superb 1900 mm f/15 telephoto lens for daylight use.

What Meade could do to improve the ETX

IMHO, Meade should have addressed the following on the ETX when they released the Premier Edition:

* Decent gears - the plastic geartrains and motor mounts used are not good and are the source of Motor Unit Fault problems, backlash, poor response at slow slewing speeds, and GOTO inaccuracies. I emailed Pete Peterson of Peterson Engineering to ask if he had an equivalent Bucks Gears for the ETX but he doesn't, pity.
* Better fork clearance - not only for rear mounted accessories but also for easier focusing and to allow the OTA to be mounted further back for better balancing.
* Better (more accurate and more stable) implementation of Polar mode on the tripod.
* Sliding dewshield - a dewshield shouldn't have to be an accessory.
* Bracket for the Autostar handbox!

What Meade have got right with the ETX

Again, IMHO, the reasons I love my ETX are:

* Outstanding optics and optical tube.
* Autostar - it has it's detractors but I find it easy to use and easy to update.
* Portability - it's not aircraft carry-on proportions, but it fits into the smallest car and the decision to take it on a trip is a no-brainer.
* Set-up - even with CALIBRATE MOTORS and TRAIN DRIVES (capitals intended) it only takes five minutes.
* GOTO - with proper set-up the electronics manage to overcome the flaws of the geartrains to provide accurate and repeatable slews to all sorts of wonders in the night sky.

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

Conclusion

I'll conclude with my final thoughts from the original review from June 2004 - my opinion hasn't changed:

"This is not a telescope for the beginner or casual observer. The ETX demands your involvement if you are to get the best out of it. Whether Meade intended it or not, the ETX is an ideal hobbyist telescope that rewards your input and fine tuning. The more you know about the ETX, the more you appreciate it's capabilities."


  • gilbert80 likes this


0 Comments



Cloudy Nights LLC
Cloudy Nights Sponsor: Astronomics