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#1 caableguy

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 12:04 PM

Hello to All,

I just found this site, and think it is great! You all have done agreat job.

I recently gave my brother my aging 4.5 reflector, mirrors were geting bad and kept the eyepieces for just in case. I have always used my Nikon 10x50 Lookout IV's for stargazing; now I am looking for something better. I was initially thinking of a small scope, the local Fry's had an ETX 125 for $475-no tripod, which was another $200 :(

So now I am looking at getting a pair of Big Bino's.I heare Celestron and Oberwerk,and Fuji's. My budget is a strict $400 for the Bino's.

Any help in this matter would be Greatly Appreciated.

I have a Bogan 2001 Pro Tripod and Pistol Ball Head that has worked great so far, I know I will have to change this, hence the budget.

Thanks in advance,

Jeff. :bow:

#2 Tom L

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 12:13 PM

The Oberwerks have a great rep for the price. How big do you want?

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 01:53 PM

Well I thought that Bigger was better, but as they say; from what I have read a bit in here, size is not importatnt. It sounds like the 16x70 is a good choice. I was initially looking at 20x100 or that area. I want to really see some deep sky stuff. I have been able to see a few with my Nikons and that only wets my appitite for more :grin:

I read that a Ranger or Pronto could be had used for a good price. I would like to find one of those too. (off topic sorry) :foreheadslap:

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 02:44 PM

If DSOs are you thing, then why not buy Hardin DSH 8" reflector at the July sales price of $299 and add the 15mm and 20mm GSO 1.25" eyepieces at the bottom of this link DBA GSO eyepieces for a very versitle system that will show you many, many more DSOs than are achievable in binoculars?

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 03:25 PM

I am looking for portabilty. My 4.5 Newt was a bit much with 4 girls ranging from 12-9. My wife likes the idea fo Bino's. I like the Idea of a Scope, I still have all my eyepieces from my last one.

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 05:25 PM

I don’t know if anyone else will recommend them, so I will. I recommend the 25 X 100 Apogee binos ($249 ?). If you do decide to consider them, check out the CN review first.

http://www.cloudynig...s/apogee100.htm

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 05:37 PM

Whether or not it is just what Jeff has in mind or decides upon , that 8 inch Reflector Mike pointed out with all the sundries for less than $400 certainly seems "a whole lotta bang for the buck" as you trans -atlanticans like to say.

Must say one wouldn't look out of place in my back yard
( nor indeed IN my house --the way things are looking recently ! )

Good luck Jeff whatever you decide upon -- but think about it all carefully first !

Regards and clear skies -- Kenny

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 06:42 PM

A 20x80 binocular with a new 3130 fluid head for that Bogen and a good solid L adapter should put you right at $400. The 3130 would handle most of the 20x80s, but it's not really enough for anything bigger. I've put 100mm binocs on a 3130 head, but only because I already had another pair of 100mm binocs attached to my 501 head. So, if you decide to go to a 100mm binocular, figure on spending $150-$160 just for a new fluid head like the Bogen 501.

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 07:20 PM




Apogee Binoc's

http://www.apogeeinc.com/binos.html


Oberwerk Binoc's

http://www.bigbinocu...p?sqlq=Oberwerk


Tripods

http://www.adorama.com/SL700D.html


http://www.adorama.c...26&cat1=Tripods

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Posted 18 July 2004 - 09:19 PM

I did look at the Dob mentioned earlier; it is still $400 for that- I did not see where it was for $299.00. Which at that price might be a consideration. Of the Big Binos, which is prefered more, the Oberwerks, Apogee or the Celestrons. I see the Apogees have a filter system in them, Gimmick?

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 05:42 AM

Of the Big Binos, which is prefered more?
I see the Apogees have a filter system in them, Gimmick?


Depends on which size. No body has the market cornered in every size.

Gimmick? I think so. You get what you pay for.

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 07:23 AM

I did look at the Dob mentioned earlier; it is still $400 for that- I did not see where it was for $299.00....


Thought I'd help you find the July special price:

http://www.speednetl...cials Julys.htm

Maybe go for the Dob and save up for binos?
Good luck desciding.

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 05:11 PM

Take note if you go for the Apogees with the filters, they are 20X vs 25X, of course I doubt that 5X difference will have any great effect. Concerning which of those three are better: Unfortunately, I believe the only way to find out is to have all three available for a side by side test.

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 10:59 PM

OK, SO... is there any reason to get Bino's over the 8"dob mentioned before. I Do like the Idea of Bino portability; but Apature fever is geting to me. Pleease help, so confused. :question: Binos Oberwerks, or Dob? :crazy:

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Posted 20 July 2004 - 12:23 AM

You are so close to Bandon, why not go over there and pick up a Hardin from those guys and try it out along with a decent pair of binocs. How about $300 for the 8" dob and $100 for the Burgess 15x70 binocs.

It is crazy! :D

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Posted 20 July 2004 - 01:32 AM

I am about 3 hours from Bandon. I think I will order the Dob, and try to get some money for the Binos. how are the Burgess, is there a review on these. I am still too new to know the name.

Thanks, Jeff

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Posted 20 July 2004 - 10:38 AM

Jeff, I didn't realise Depot Bay was that far! There are several members here that own the Burgess 15x70s and everyone, including myself, are very pleased with them, especially for the price. You could step up $50 and get the Oberwerk 15x70s, which have better coatings (from what I can tell from the posts here).

Since it is probably to far to drive, Dale, from the link posted above, is a great guy to deal with and I believe the scope is drop shipped from Hardin.

Good luck.

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Posted 20 July 2004 - 11:28 AM

OK, I ordered the 8", now where to get the Burgess? Any idea of shipping time for the scope?

Thanks for all the tips. Looking forward to Big Binoculars.

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Posted 20 July 2004 - 12:45 PM

I got my Burgess binocs from Anacortes online. Where did you order the scope from? I would have thought they would tell you.

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Posted 20 July 2004 - 07:54 PM

Dale, at the site mentioned above. I did get a call from him later in the day. have you or any one heard of Action Gear Binos? I saw a pair of 10x56, looked well made rubberized coating. Blue tint coating. Looked like Bak4 nice round pupils , large exit pupils too.

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Posted 20 July 2004 - 08:00 PM

No, I'm not familiar with that brand of binocs. I will point you to the Oberwerks mainly because I have yet to hear a bad thing about them. If there is a problem, Kevin at Oberwerks will work with you to make it right. I'll be getting some 10x50WAs from him shortly.


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