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#1 mnpd

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:13 PM

Here's one of the latest oddities to hit eBay. I don't remember anything like this, although I sure someone will. One thing is for certain... it this ain't "classic", then nothing is.
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#2 Steve_M_M

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:31 PM

Very rare Fecker Celestar 6. This is really going to cost me if I go for it....I am feeling the pain already.

It looks to be in excellent condition. Realize that 5 Fecker eyepieces just sold over on A-Mart for $750 or so. This has 3 and the turret,,,and a scope/mount. I would not be surprised at $1200 or more.

Attached is my little 4". Any chance the bid on this one will stay at $9.99?

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:34 PM

I'm not a Fecker disciple, but that as Feck looks like a classical cassegrain with a non-perforated primary mirror. The equatorial fork is pretty standard, but I don't think I've seen an attached turret on one of these before. It also looks like they used an optical window to support the secondary. Very neat. Am I right, Fecker fans?

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:37 PM

What a gorgeous scope!..... for a non-refractor... ;)

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:38 PM

I would love to buy this scope!!!!!! But no money!!!!!!!!! :bawling: :nonono: :nonono: :bangbangbang: :bangbangbang: :noway: :noway:

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:45 PM

When were these things on the market, guys?

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:51 PM

Here is Nov 1958. And yes Keith, it was a catadioptric.

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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:56 PM

Im a high bidder!!!!

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 12:01 AM

Hey, that was not nice :) I only had the high bid for about 10 minutes.

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 12:02 AM

I see it is a f/15 system. Very beautiful scope!!! :bow: :bow: :jump: :jump: :jump: :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow: :)

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 12:03 AM

Clint, maybe we could agree to share :question:

#12 Lew Chilton

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 01:27 AM

That Celestar-6 is a Maksutov. When it was first introduced in about 1958, it went for $495. This one on that auction site may be the same one that was for sale on AM a few months back. The guy eventually withdrew his ad, even though a friend submitted a very respectable offer for it.

I've had a Celestar-4 since 1970 but haven't used it since acquiring my 4-inch APO in 2003. I'm thinking of selling it to a local buyer who appreciates a totally original classic. (Am I allowed to say that?)

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 09:44 AM

So that speckled white with light blue trim is original paint??? WOW!

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 10:38 AM

Lewis let get together some time and kick each othere tripods!!! Clint

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Posted 01 June 2007 - 10:46 AM

If it goes to a UPS type shipping store, be prepared for a very high price to pack and ship. Insure it for about 3 times what you pay for it. Be sure they label as FRAGILE GLASS SCIENTIFIC INSTRUMENT.

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 01:34 AM

Thanks for the shipping advice.

Hey, Clint, let's get together and kick tripods!

That speckled paint on Fecker scopes, as well as on early Astrolas and Treckerscopes is Zolatone paint, which is still available today. It wears like iron and comes in many different color schemes. You can special order it at many automotive supply stores.

The Zolatone company, located in Los Angeles, has a website with paint chip samples, so you can find the right color if you're planning to restore an old scope with its original Zolatone paint scheme. Here's a link to the Zolatone company's site:
http://www.zolatoneaim.com/

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 11:37 AM

If anyone here buyys this, I'd suggest Craters and Freighters (www.cratersandfreighters.com) to see if they have locations that will serve that area.

I used them for a Celestron 10 from Seattle (Bill Cook's) to San Diego and they picked up, custom crated (plywood, then in to the goods: hard foam, soft foam, then air bladders, then plastic shrink wrap). They arranged transport and insurance to their location near me and opened up for inspection for me before I signod off on anything. It wasn't cheap, but this Celestar is easily in the rare irreplacable antique category. It should be handled accordingly.

UPS, Fed Ex, etc have all been damaging packges to me lately. "Brown" even broke the head on a surveyor tripod!

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 12:13 PM

I don't get it . Is it a Cass, or a Newt?

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 01:02 PM

Well. Lew says the 6" is a Maksutov. Makes sense, since the secondary appears to be 'painted' on the meniscus like a Questar. The primary appears to be non perforated, judging by the position of the focuser. With this as my assumption, there is a primary mirror, a secondary mirror (on the meniscus) and then a tertiary mirror under the focuser, just like a newtonian. Another possibility is that the primary is in fact perforated, but just sits higher in the tube than would be expected. A look down the tube would confirm this either way. Here's a shot of my 8" cassegrain, and you can see the similarities.

Keith

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Posted 02 June 2007 - 01:09 PM

Here's a shot down the tube. Except for the spider instead of the window, and the curves on the glass, it should appear similar. The reflections in the primary complicate the view, but there is just a 4-vane spider for the secondary and a single-stalk holder for the tertiary. This scope was built in the early 40's.

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