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#1 Da Bear

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 10:19 PM

Looking to purchase this reflector..is it a Vixen? Worth $300 for a knock around Newtonian for the front lawn? I always have a lot of trouble in deciding to buy the newer scopes. Weird , huh?

http://sfbay.craigsl.../344020839.html

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 10:58 PM

Not Vixen. The only 8" Vixen Newt I can think of is the R200SS -- 8" f/4. That appears to be Guan Sheng. Some of those are good scopes. SVD should be worth $300 to somebody...

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Posted 03 June 2007 - 11:09 PM

Looking to purchase this reflector..is it a Vixen? Worth $300 for a knock around Newtonian for the front lawn? I always have a lot of trouble in deciding to buy the newer scopes. Weird , huh?

http://sfbay.craigsl.../344020839.html

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Hi:

Myself, I would pass on that scope simply because it's F/4. And knowing those extruded aluminum legs on the SVD, I am quite sure it would not be very stable...

But mostly it's F/4 with a 1.25 inch focuser so even if you wanted to a Paracorr is not a choice unless you add a 2 inch focuser or happen to have a 1.25 inch Paracorr. IMHO, there is only one reason to get tangled up with an F/4 scope and that is because you need the shorter tube length. Otherwise, F/5 is a much better place to be.

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 12:36 AM

Hey Bear,
This is my neck of the woods! I'm in Novato!
Don't know anything about this scope, tho

#5 clintwhitman

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 01:53 AM

Is it a Cave?

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 05:21 AM

Hello Bear
Orion droped this line several years ago, and replaced it with the 8" 1000mm f/l.This was a low power scope used for deep space observation if I remember correctly,
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#7 Jon Isaacs

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 07:12 AM

Hello Bear
Orion droped this line several years ago, and replaced it with the 8" 1000mm f/l.This was a low power scope used for deep space observation if I remember correctly,
Bruce


The replaced it with the 1000mm F/5. If I remember correctly they did this when they came out with the SkyView Pro as the SVP is capable of handling a longer, heavier OTA. I believe the SVD is not as sturdy as the old CG-5 with the extrude aluminum legs, I found that marginal with my 8 inch F/5 but the CG-5 ASGT with the 2 inch SS legs does a nice job.

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 07:45 AM

Thanks guys..er...everyone....I'll be passing on the Orion.

I found this too... although its at the top of my impulse price range. I've heard the LX75 mounts are pretty good.

http://sfbay.craigsl.../343699793.html

I've got a real desire for something new to play with....The CFO says is because my youngest (daughter) is graduating high school Sunday.. and going off to college this fall (Northwestern ) and this is my first "empty nest" compensation... I'm not that transparent, am I?

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#9 Preston Smith

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 09:25 AM

The CFO says is because my youngest (daughter) is graduating high school Sunday.. and going off to college this fall (Northwestern ) and this is my first "empty nest" compensation... I'm not that transparent, am I?
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Hey, I'll take approval from the CFO anytime - no matter what the justification! :jump:

Congrats to your daughter!

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 05:13 PM

The picture sure made the mount look marginal. You'd do better getting a new Zhumell 8 inch DOB. I percive Dobs as functional scopes...Dobs offered by Zhumell and others are very cost effective. Great bang for the buck but zero **** appeal. I have a 10 inch Zhumell, its fine and I'll keep it but It's just a tool to me not like my classics which I treasure. Classic Newts like Cave are fantastic but also large and heavy. Guess that's why I favor the classic small refractors.
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#11 Jon Isaacs

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 05:47 PM

>>> Classic Newts like Cave are fantastic but also large and heavy.
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There is a reason 10 and 12.5 inch Newtonians used to be considered observatory scopes and that now they are sometimes thought of beginners scopes...

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 05:55 PM

The best views I have ever had (by an astronomical margin) of Saturn were through a 12.5" Cave. I needed a drool bib and eventually a cattle-prod to move me away from the eyepiece.

Regards and clear skies,

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Posted 04 June 2007 - 06:44 PM

Sure wish I had a picture of my 10 inch f/6 Custom Delux Cave that I bought in about 1973. Chrome pier, polished aluminum rotating rings...A sweethart. Kept it for 25 years and got great use from it. Like a dummy I sold it in 1998. Truth be known it was just too ponderous to transport. My home skies are so treed and polluted I could hardly use it. But I miss it so.
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Posted 05 June 2007 - 02:37 AM

They are not... heavy there my brother dont wim pp out be a caveman!!! 2 arc second Cave :yay: :usa: :refractor: :yay: :yay:

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 02:38 AM

How else you gonna see god!!!

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 06:36 AM

Wow Clint, that Cave sure looks nifty on the Byers mount!

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 08:40 PM

So beautiful!! Thanks for posting the picture.
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