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#1 JerryWise

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 10:40 AM

I've been notified Meade is shipping a new 14" LX200R to me next week. I've been on a special list to have one 'cherry picked' by their VP Scott. However, I've asked to just pull one from stock with no special selection or checking out. They had four in the warehouse and this is one of the four picked at random.

Now not one to give equipment a good testing and going over, but I might check this one out pretty good. (I understand Luke and some others have started a lottery already.) I'm making up a score card for the new arrival. At a minimum this is what will be done in the first 30 minutes after arrival:

1. Packing and shipping. Any pieces of glass in the box and did it arrive on time?

2. Physical appearance. Any dings, scratches, creases. Loose screws or bent dew cap.

3. Optics appearance. Any foam particles, grease, spiders or dust?

4. Internal integrity. Pick it up and shake it. Turn it upside down and shake it. Does anything rattle?

5. Take the 14" LX200 Losmandy plate off the 14" LX200 OTA "PopEye" and see if it matches up. If not, rush order something from somewhere.

6. Mount that rascal up and see if the floor joist under the pier are really 12". Also, check NJP warranty status. Put Feathertouch on first thing.

7. Next first thing, star test. Collimate looking for identical rings both sides of focus. This will make me very happy if it occurs. I never had this on a string of 10" LX200Rs. All the Celestrons do it as well as the Meade LX200s I've had. Just not the 200Rs.

8. Put a bunch of EPs in and pan around checking for defects toward the edges. Quantify mirror flop hoping for minimal shift.

9. Now go to M13 and count the stars. Then take some pictures.

Anything else?
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#2 Alex^DJ^

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 11:24 AM

10 - Clouds for over 2 or 3 weeks..... hehehehehe

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 11:37 AM

At random to JW? :roflmao: :roflmao:

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 12:06 PM

Anybody else got a case of deja vu? :shrug:

Seriously, good luck Jerry.

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 12:49 PM

betcha he gets a good one.

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 12:57 PM

Good luck Jerry.
I bet you got a good one.

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 01:11 PM

I'm betting Popeye will be on AMart soon.

#8 JerryWise

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 01:46 PM

Naw Luke. You know you get first right of refusal (and well you should) on PopEye. I mean, it has a chipped mirror. I don't want to sell it (it's soooo cute) but two 14" LX200 size OTAs, a C-11, LX200R 10" and FS-152 stove-pipe is just taking too much room.

Now, I bet only an AP1200 or Paramount will carry a FS-152 and LX200R at the same time. Ohhhh nooooo.

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 05:11 PM

Jerry,

You beat me to the punch with your comment about weight and the mount.

So what do you think the 14R + FS-152 + plates and side by side mount + the DSLR are going to weigh?

My bet is well north of a 100lbs. I'm guessing you're going to be hearing little Japanese 4 letter words coming from the NJP.

I think for taking pictures you're going to have to limit yourself (what the heck am I saying) to the 14R and FS-60 or 78 for guiding.

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 05:43 PM


4. Internal integrity. Pick it up and shake it. Turn it upside down and shake it. Does anything rattle?
Anything else?
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Uh, hmmm, Oh... How much do you weigh? I mean, you know, I think that thing is.... largeish? :sumo:
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Posted 15 June 2007 - 09:36 PM

The news keeps getting better for you! Regarding #5. The DM12 I had on a 12 LX200 fit my 12" R. Should be good to go!

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#12 JerryWise

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 09:42 PM

Mark, I think that will go over 100 easy. I'm thinking the LX200R 14", the FS-78 and the FS-60 as a finder.

Hubert, a hair over 200 and a little north of 6'1" or so. I'm a firm believer in health food....... from Krispy Kreme. With and OTA like that 14" Meade it's more if you can get your arms around it. If you man handle it before putting all the plates and stuff on it's not bad at all.

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Posted 15 June 2007 - 10:46 PM

hey jerry, what delivery service is delivering the scope?

#14 JerryWise

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 05:51 AM

Jim, I haven't got a tracking number yet but I hope you guys carry the load. I've had excellent luck with the brown truck. My LX200 14" GPS Fork Mount came on a pallet a couple years ago on "One man and a truck" freight lines. They couldn't find me and I finally picked it up at their really small, really not a terminal, really remote, terminal. It made the trip ok though.

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 09:02 AM

Hmmm...should I be nervous about buying a 14" 200R???

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 08:05 PM

All I know is that its going to be a good read. Kinda be funny if they tossed a plastic mouse in the box that alone would worth the read on the way Jerry would spin it in his post. Just about any of his comparisons or test or I am going to take this apart series is always simple and to the point. I cant wait!!!

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 08:33 PM

Someone professional neede to get to the bottom of why JW keeps punishing himself?

"So Jerry, let's return to your childhood...." :smirk:

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 08:44 PM

Mr. Wise's behavior is all explained in Freud's Beyond the Pleasure Principle. :whistle:

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 09:18 PM

Jerry do you think that Meade will not cherry pick the scope as you asked? Either way if they only had 4 scopes finished I would say they have pretty good QC on them. I really hope you get a winner.

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Posted 16 June 2007 - 10:42 PM

Jerry,

some other considerations:

1. Cool down time - get a sct cooler (will help a lot!) - these scopes need a good 60 min to cool down (even with a SCT cooler)

2. Flip scope pointing vertically - rack the focuser in and out several times - will spread the grease and reduce mirror flop

3. get yourself a 3" optec Focuser - will need it for heavy CCD image trains

4. THe AP 2.7" 0.75 Focal reducer will get the F10 down to around F8 with nice flat fields across a STL11K size chip - see my FTP website for images

Good luck - My LX200R 14 has performed very well

I am in the preoess of adding cooling fans to rear (like LX200R 16") to help in removing thermals

Jason

#21 JerryWise

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 10:30 AM


Yall embarass with flattery. This stuff is just too much fun not to experiment with. I think the clincher on getting off the fence was the comparsion Jason did with the RC-14.5 vs LX200R 14". Jason, do you have a link to that? I can't seem to find it now.

Looks like tonight will be good and then the rest of the week is all set to welcome a new scope. Thunderstorms and murky skies. Oh well. I'm getting the UPS butterflies now. I sure hope Meade has their act together on this one.

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 09:37 AM

I sure hope Meade has their act together on this one.


So do I! I'm about to order one but I live a looong way from the Mead factory about about 2500kms away from the supplier. If anything is wrong with it, I'm in trouble. :praying:

#23 JerryWise

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 10:24 AM

Whoa. That is about as far away as can be had while Earth bound. I'll let you know how this one turns out.

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 10:40 AM

I'm considering off-loading an APO of considerable value. Wonder how a big blue OTA would look on a white mount?
Perhaps Jerry holds the key..........

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Posted 18 June 2007 - 06:07 PM

I'm considering off-loading an APO of considerable value.


Your kidding...right Luke? Don't tell me the new TEC is leaving already :bawling:


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