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#76 ngc6475

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Posted 24 April 2005 - 08:09 PM

...and the mount head. It seems to move smoothly but firmly. Thanks for looking!

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 07:49 AM

Beautiful, Walter! :waytogo: It looks like it's in pristine condition.

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Posted 25 April 2005 - 08:54 PM

Thanks Bill! There are only a few small marks on the OTA and legs, and just a tiny bit of paint flaking off of the mount. Otherwise it is in pretty good shape all the way around for a 30+ year old scope. The only thing in less than acceptable condition is the wooden cabinet in which it is stored: the plywood is old and it is delaminating. Actually, when I bought this scope, it had a few small parts missing or damaged. For example, the rubber tips on the legs were missing and the dust cap was cracked. Also, one the setting circles had a small dent. I found exactly the same model Sears scope, in generally less nice condition, that still had the missing or damaged parts (in good shape, fortunately), and used the second scope as a "parts car". I disassembled the mount, replaced the damaged setting circles, and replaced the other missing items on the rest of the scope. I then carefully cleaned and lubricated the scope and mount. It is a handsome setup, I must admit. Now, if I can find a wooden box in good shape, I'll be all set! ;)

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Posted 29 April 2005 - 09:22 PM

I have a old Tower 76mm with a equatorial mount like your sears scope. The ra dail seem backwards. the numbers increase in the wrong direction.And there are two pointers for Ra dail one on each side.I have never been able to understand it. Is your sears like this?

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Posted 29 April 2005 - 09:45 PM

I'll have to check the direction of the numbers: I have never used the setting circles on these scopes as they appear almost useless. There is only one "pointer" on my Sears scopes, however. I have another vintage Japanese scope on which there are two "pointers" on the RA dial. You have a nice scope, there, by the way! ;)

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Posted 29 April 2005 - 11:20 PM

Well, there I was. Minding my own business, of course. Suddenly, I saw this unusual, early model Sears Model 6333 refractor on a well known web site when...POW!...everything went blank! A few days later THIS arrives! Oh well...

It is an early 60s Sears Model 6333 (not Model 4 6333 A, as with my other Sears refractor). Note the difference in paint scheme, the metal knobs, and mount, among other things. It came with a barlow, three eyepieces, erect image porro prism, moon filter, illuminated accessory tray, and a solid hardwood cabinet. The only thing it appears to have been missing is the sun screen, and I have an extra in very good condition to complete this setup. It also came with two winged eyepiece guards and a couple of amber eyepiece filters. All I've done to it is wipe it down with a damp cloth. It is in pretty good condition...not as fine as the other 6333 I have, but not bad at all. I will state, however, that this is definitely the last of these old Japanese 60mm refractors I buy! They're starting to crowd me!

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Posted 29 April 2005 - 11:23 PM

Here is the mount: note the engraved setting circle on only one axis...

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Posted 29 April 2005 - 11:24 PM

...and the focuser.

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Posted 30 April 2005 - 07:04 AM

Nice looking scope Walter, you sure seem to have the
nack for running accross these gems.
Hows the view through it ?

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Posted 30 April 2005 - 10:52 AM

Hi Dave,

I just received it yesterday, and it still needs a bit more cleaning and lubing before I take it out. One of these days I will assemble all of these "ladies of the night" at the same time and compare them. That will be a big job, so don't expect it too soon! I think it will look neat to have three or four of these elegant, long focal-length refractors set up in a row, however. What a sight!
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Posted 30 April 2005 - 03:21 PM

As an aside, the woman from whom I purchased this scope told me it was originally owned by the man who lived next door to her when she was a child. He had let her look through this very scope when she was 11. This places the age of the scope at about 40 and the purchase date of the setup at around 1965, give or take one year. She sold the scope from the estate of the gentleman at the request of the son.

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Posted 30 April 2005 - 07:33 PM

Hey Walter,

And you even got some history to go with the scope :cool:
Cant wait to one day see the pic of those fine ladies all
lined up together...

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Posted 30 April 2005 - 11:53 PM

Another beautiful scope, Walter! :waytogo:

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Posted 01 May 2005 - 01:51 PM

Thanks Bill and Dave,

These old scopes are an illness. I think I mentioned on another thread that the first time I ever saw the rings of Saturn through an eyepiece, it was with a long focal length refractor similar to these old scopes. I believe many people can say that, too. I really don't think these old setups will ever be worth anything, but they're still worthwhile instruments and its still fun to set them up once in while. Have you had yours out much, Bill?

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Posted 01 May 2005 - 01:59 PM

Yeah, my first view of Saturn was through an old Jason 60mm refractor...a very memorable experience! Walter, I had my old Towa out about a week ago since I got my .965" to 1.25" adapter, 1.25" diagonal, and a couple of Plossls. The views were nice & sharp, but the collimation of this scope seems to be off a little. I'm gonna play around with it a little & see if I can improve it. Almost zero false color around Jupiter, though! :jump:

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Posted 01 May 2005 - 02:02 PM

By the way, I found a vintage Bushnell 60mm f/15.2 refractor from the early '80s on eBay. The bidding is currently around $20 or so (I was outbid a couple of days ago). The scope looks like it's in decent shape. I'm debating whether or not I should keep bidding. I think my wife would kill me if another scope showed up at our house!

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Posted 01 May 2005 - 03:16 PM

I feel your pain, Bill. Part of you wants to grab the refractor while you have the opportunity, and another part reminds you what a wildly impractical thing it is. Yet another voice will say that, if you bring another scope into the house, you'll be sleeping on the couch! If, however, you push on and get that scope, post a pic and let us know about it! (Although heeding that last voice sounds like a pretty safe path!) Good luck!

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Posted 01 May 2005 - 03:44 PM

Bill,

I went looking for your Bushnell refractor and found a 60mm Unitron on an alt/az mount (item #7512436327). It appears to be in good shape, too. You will deserve a concussion and earn my undying respect if you go after that baby!

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 12:20 AM

Oh, man!! That's a nice one. The bid is already over $300 & there are 5 days left! My wife would REALLY kill me..... :scared:

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 08:42 PM

Oh, man!! That's a nice one. The bid is already over $300 & there are 5 days left! My wife would REALLY kill me..... :scared:


Well Bill, we don't want that, now do we? We can dream, though! :lol:

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 08:28 AM

Yeah, dreams are cool!

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Posted 31 July 2005 - 07:12 PM

Hi Gents,

Has anyone ever seen a 76mm Sears refractor in a pedestal mount with clock drive? They used to sell them as their top model back in 65. Anyone knows of a newer clock drive that will work with the 76mm equatorial mount. My 76mm is from 66 and I got it as a Xmas present. It is still with me.

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Posted 31 July 2005 - 09:08 PM

Post some snaps, Guido! I'd love to see your classic!

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Posted 01 August 2005 - 08:11 AM

I'd love to see that too. I think my manual mentions a clock drive, but I've never seen one that would fit.

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Posted 01 August 2005 - 10:08 AM

Let me indicate that my Sears 76mm is not in a pedestal mount. I wanted to know if anyone had seen one. The pedestal mount model was listed as having a clock drive. If you wanted a clock drive for the tripod model, it was optional. My telescope has an interesting history because after owning it for 10 years I sold it to a good friend in 76. It remained in his hands for 20 years! Back in 96 we found each other and he told me that the telescope was still with him but he was not using it. I bought it back from him, cleaned and refurbished everything. The only missing part was the tray light. He left the batteries in and it rotted away. So the 76mm made it back home and I still use it. Coupled to the 76mm I also have my first telescope, a 60mm Sears in altazimuth mount. This one is from 65 and has never left my hands. In fact I am comparing observations that I did with this one and the 76mm back in the 60s with observations now 40 years after. Incidentally the traylight in the 60mm has survived. The optics in both telescopes is superb. I also own a Criterion RV6, Orion 120mm f/8 (with replaced objective) and a Meade 90 ETX. The 76mm can give a good run to both the Meade and Orion.

I will post some snaps of both Sears Scopes

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