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How To Put a Meade 5000 on a Diet!

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#76 m. allan noah

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 06:59 PM

I managed to strip down the related axiom lx, but I still have not seen anyone do it with the ES units.

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#77 Stephen S

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:00 PM

Just saw the stripped down version of the 40MM SWA at the following titled thread:

"DEEPER inside a SEE Monster - Meade 40mm 5000"

The revised eyepiece looks great! Just got a 40mm myself and will be making this alteration. I love the big views but not the bigger eyepieces. Thank you for helping us figure out how to get more sky without our bulk of a huge eyepiece.

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 09:45 AM

Can anyone tell me the barrel diameter of the Meade 34mm SWA after it has been slimmed down? I need to know how well it's reduced size will work in binoviewing.

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 10:47 AM

Not to hijack the thread, but is it possible to do this with the 30mm Explore Scientific UWA?


Hi, Here is a thread that tells how to do this to the ES version. Unfortunately, it seems it is impossible to do without damaging the rubber eyecup. I had tried just poking a small screw driver through the eyecup to try to unscrew the screws that need to be done to take this apart but it's not working. I am thinking that the best way may be to use a razor blade to cut around the outside of the eyecup right where it meets the hard metal barrel to remove it but this is destructive. You may be able to rebuild it later using hot glue to attach the eyecup to restore it to new looking but that's only a maybe. You will be voiding your warranty but once the eyepiece liposuction is done you will have an eyepiece that is around a pound (maybe slightly more) lighter than it was before the deed was done.

As all ways, do this at your own risk.

Personally, I think it's worth it.

#80 SteveG

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 11:35 AM

Can anyone tell me the barrel diameter of the Meade 34mm SWA after it has been slimmed down? I need to know how well it's reduced size will work in binoviewing.


62mm See my thread from a week ago:
http://www.cloudynig...5/o/all/fpart/1

#81 CharlesStG

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 12:06 PM

Thanks Steve! Just what I needed to know. 62mm will work perfectly as my dual focusers have a minimum interpupillary distance of 63.5mm when working in 2" mode. So, the 34mm is a definite keeper for me. Great write-up, btw, on your 34mm swa lean versioning.

#82 Russ S.

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 07:55 AM

You have to wonder if this dislike for the SWA's shroud had anything to do with the line being discontinued(?). Maybe we'll see slimmer reincarnation.

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 08:03 AM

I don't think we will see these in any other form but if they did release these and the UWA's (Celestron Axiom LX's, ES 82's) without the extra weight I bet they would be good sellers now that more people are aware of what these eyepieces can do...

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 09:39 PM

I was able to put my two 24mm SWAs on a diet in about 15 minutes. Kudos to starpal. :)

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 04:35 PM

Awesome thread :jump:

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Posted 20 January 2011 - 07:23 PM

Ok... This really begs the question. Why would they add so much weight and bulk to their EP? What do you guys think made Meade make their EPs look like this? :shrug:


they figured all the nagler fans would go in for something weighty.

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 02:41 PM

I managed to strip down the related axiom lx, but I still have not seen anyone do it with the ES units.

allan


Any documentation on this mod? I have a full set of Axiom LX's I'd like to put on a diet.

TIA!

Stacy

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 03:15 PM

Please DON'T do it!!

Those Axioms are beautiful with their aluminum coats!

It would be sacrilege to put them on that ridiculous "diet" that people have designed for the Meade.

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#89 Paul P

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 03:33 PM

Maybe I'm weird, but I actually like the look of the Meade's stripped down better.

It's has that certain "utilitarian" look to it that I somehow find appealing.

Paul

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 06:46 PM

Please DON'T do it!!

Those Axioms are beautiful with their aluminum coats!

It would be sacrilege to put them on that ridiculous "diet" that people have designed for the Meade.

:mad:


No doubt. They look awesome. But take the 31mm for example. It's difficult to even get your eyeball up to the thing, let alone use the whole FOV the surface is so wide and flat.

Shame to strip them down, but they would be easier to use. I think.

Stacy

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 01:10 PM

By following these modifications, you can turn a svelte 28mm SWA into something that looks like a child's school project:

1. For better grip, a mountain bike inner tube was stretched around the EPs waist.

2. Others have commented on the difficulty of finding a cap for the naked EP. A dirt cheap but very functional cap can be made from the base of a plastic bottle whose diameter is marginally wider than that of your EP.
Cut two slits either side as shown in the picture, sit the cap on the EP and wrap some electrical insulation tape, sufficiently tightly as to provide a snug fit.

Not pretty, but functional.
Thank you Starpal and others for this thread.

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#92 Scanning4Comets

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 06:42 PM

I just finished doing the same to my 28mm SWA! Luckily, I had an extra eyecup for it...I can still use the existing top cap on it since the eyecup is tapered. I will be looking for a better 28mm label with two small "m's" to stick on from a store so it will look better.

I also added a 2" parfocal ring on so it has more of a "lip".

I also just added a 28mm sticker to see what it would look like and it is done! :grin:

It's now a lot lighter and ergonomically better!

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 06:44 PM

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#94 Scanning4Comets

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 06:55 PM

with the cap on...

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 07:17 PM

This is a great old thread. :grin:
Here are my 28SWA and 24SWA: (The 24mm works amazingly well in my small scopes).

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 07:27 PM

Yours look great Mag7 :jump:

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 07:31 PM

Thanks. They are especially great to look through! I definitely prefer Meade's 24mm over Televue's 24mm Panoptic (more eyerelief, cooler tone). I can hardly believe I was able to pick it up for only $80 brand new. And it weighs only 9oz after the diet!

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 08:14 PM

Hey no problems! Yea, for sure! They are a real bargain used. My 28mm SWA now reminds me of a 27mm Panoptic with about the same performance!! Where did you get your eye cups from? they look sweet!

#99 edl

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:27 PM

Nice job guys.
Did the same to a used 34 I picked up.

Best,
Ed L.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:59 PM

Hi, all the latest different revisions shown to these great eyepieces exhibit some truly excellent work, congratulations everybody!!! :)


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