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How Many Binoculars Do You Own?

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#251 edwincjones

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 07:06 PM

Congratulations Ed on a great choice at a great price !

Kenny


thank you,

I am pleased, and started another post (this one may get lost) on their availability.

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#252 DJB

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 12:46 AM

Hi Ed,

I really have to "ditto" Kenny's congratulations. Good choice with a good price.

Good luck on this one, pal.

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#253 Sarkikos

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 12:23 PM

$536.25 for a 32mm bino? I know this is a good discount from the usual prices out there for this bino, but still ... I could see if they had Image Stabilization. No offense, but aperture rules, even among binos. Too rich for my blood ... and bank account. ;)


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#254 hallelujah

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 12:35 PM

No offense, but aperture rules, even among binos.


Mike,

No offense, but, not true.

http://www.cloudynig.../424964/page/0/

"When it comes to the question ”How deep can you see?” in binoculars, magnification has greater influence on performance than aperture."
 

#255 EdZ

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 12:43 PM

No offense, but aperture rules, even among binos.


Mike,

No offense, but, not true.

http://www.cloudynig.../424964/page/0/

"When it comes to the question ”How deep can you see?” in binoculars, magnification has greater influence on performance than aperture."


well, all very true, BUT

the Nikon 8x32 SE is not primarily an astronomy binocular. It is a daylight binocular, and a very good one. In daylight most people will have pupils of 3-4mm at very largest in dim light. Therefore, at 8x, there is absolutely no need to make the lens larger than 32mm, otherwise your eye pupil would simple stop the lens down anyway.

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#256 KennyJ

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 12:51 PM

< Celestron SkyMaster 25x100 on 501HDV & Oberwerk Tripod
Zhumell 20x80 on P-Plus
Celestron SkyMaster 15x70
Barska XWA 10x50
Celestron OptiView LPR 10x50
Barska XWA 8x40
BPO Const. View 2.3x40 >

Personally , I'd rather own ANY ONE of the Nikon SEs than ALL of those seven models listed !

Just shows how different we can all be :-)

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 05:04 PM

"the Nikon 8x32 SE is not primarily an astronomy binocular. It is a daylight binocular, and a very good one. In daylight most people will have pupils of 3-4mm at very largest in dim light. Therefore, at 8x, there is absolutely no need to make the lens larger than 32mm, otherwise your eye pupil would simple stop the lens down anyway."

Good point, and something to remember. The optimum exit pupil for astronomy won't be the same as that for daylight use. I had thought that this thread was primarily devoted to astronomical binoculars, because that is the primary focus of this site, so I was operating under that particular bias.
 

#258 Sarkikos

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 05:09 PM

"Personally , I'd rather own ANY ONE of the Nikon SEs than ALL of those seven models listed !"

So would I! ... But then I would promptly sell it and buy one good astronomical bino. ;) :grin:

Like I said, I'm the owner of much cheap glass. :bow:
 

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 05:49 PM

Great article on BLM vs LM. I knew how exit pupil relates to aperture and magnification, and how higher magnification can produce more contrast and a darker field. But your article really brings home how these factors have special consequences in binos and scopes. There's a lot of good info in the article, and I'll be sure to refer to it often. In terms of BLM, magnification does indeed rule in binoculars. But BLM isn't all there is to binos. Your article does admit that larger aperture in binos has one major benefit:

"(Keep in mind the primary benefit of larger aperture and larger exit pupil will be realized when you are observing objects such as broad extended faint nebulae)"
 

#260 KennyJ

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 07:01 PM

< I had thought that this thread was primarily devoted to astronomical binoculars, because that is the primary focus of this site, so I was operating under that particular bias. >

Mike , You would be correct in making that assumption .

I am guilty of the " opposite " and as such am always instinctively thinking about daytime applications of binoculars .

My bad ! :-(

Clear Skies
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#261 Luigi

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 06:36 AM

In daylight 8x20 bins can be as bright as any larger aperture 8x bins, the downside is it takes greater care to align the exit pupils with your eyes' pupils, and small relative movements makes the resulting misalignmnet obvious. Although you wont' be using more than 20mm of aperture woth any 8x bin in the daytime, the increased tolerance in exit/entrance pupil alignmnet makes viewing more comfortable and natural. To keep on topic, I currently have 9 bins. Or is it 10?
 

#262 Sarkikos

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 08:02 PM

Kenny,

No problem! As Gen. Patton said, "If everyone is thinking the same thing , no-one is thinking." :grin:

Clear Skies by Night AND Day,
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 08:33 PM

"Soon the Celestron Skymaster 15x70 will be added to my collection."

The SkyMaster 15x70 is my favorite! It gives the best view of any of my binos. That may be damning by faint praise, but there it is. Nice sharp field, not much color aberration (to my eyes), pin-point stars, dark field. The 15x70 has a 4.7mm exit pupil, which gives a nice dark, contrasty field, a definite asset for light-polluted skies, and probably yields a higher BLM than comparable binos with a larger exit pupil. Not too heavy to be hand-held for a few minutes. Nice on a monopod, great on a parallelogram mount. If I could keep only one of my binos, this may be the one. My only complaint would be that the diopter range is not enough to allow me to focus both eyes sharply with my glasses off. (My right eye is quite a bit more myopic than my left.) But the eye relief is sufficient that I can comfortably wear my glasses while observing with the 15x70s, which is probably the best way to use binos in any case. Let us know what you think about them when you get them.

Mike

See excellent article by Professor Edz on BLM vs LM. I defer to his judgment on any questions re BLM.

http://www.cloudynig.../424964/page/0/
 

#264 ErnieM

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 11:44 PM

Good to know that the eye relief is comfortable on the 15x70 because I wear my glasses with the Skymaster 8x56 which are extremely comfortable with glasses on.Both Phil Harrington and Terrence Dickinson highly recommend the 15x70 in their books.Also the 8x56.Forgot to mention a pair of Zina 10x25 :lol: (don't ask) so that puts me at 4 binos that I own,and soon 5 with the 15x70.
 

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 06:52 PM

One: Fujinon 14x40 Techno-Stabi

I can see the Orion Neb.; I mainly use it for Kennedy Space Center watching the launches. Stabilization is awesome!

And, I got them on CraigsList for $500
 

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 08:05 PM


I have 4 and another on the way.
 

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 11:45 PM

One: Fujinon 14x40 Techno-Stabi

I can see the Orion Neb.; I mainly use it for Kennedy Space Center watching the launches. Stabilization is awesome!

And, I got them on CraigsList for $500


You are one lucky scrubmonkey! That's less than half price of a new unit.

I guess in the "Sunshine State" the small 2.8mm exit pupil functions okay.

I was a little disappointed with dim views through my 10x30 IS in the winter up here in the Pointless Forest.

For outdoor pursuits the rest of the year, and for indoor events and for casual stargazing, they worked fine.

But I always felt that the optics were not quite up to my premium porros.

So I've always wanted to try the Nikon and Fujinon IS bins to see if they have better optics or just a higher price tag, but they are scarcer here than a ivory-billed woodpecker is in your neck of the woods.
 

#268 edwincjones

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:43 PM

okay, really 10

I forgot about a pentax 8x40 PCF that I had loaned to my son-in-law
(I thought that I had given it to him)

10 is enough-unless I get rid of some
edj
 

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 07:52 PM

Just eight now. Sold two earlier this year. I'm still thinking of selling the Fujinon 16 X 70's. But, why??? Just because my wife wants the "herd thinned"? Not!

I sure like those new Minox's...mmmmmmm...

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Posted 31 March 2009 - 12:27 PM

49 or 50 - depending on how I come out on eBay this afternoon :-).
Includes a large number of 8x30 Porros. I have a thing about them, but also have 6x15 through 12x50, both Porro and roofs. So far I've resisted the really big glasses though. Also resisted (it'$ not hard) the lure of alpha bins, although I do have a pair of Swarovski 7x42 Porros.
 

#271 edwincjones

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 05:00 PM

okay, really 10

I forgot about a pentax 8x40 PCF that I had loaned to my son-in-law
(I thought that I had given it to him)

10 is enough-unless I get rid of some
edj


back down to 8-I gave the 8x40s to my son-in-law and cancelled nikon 8x32SEs order.

10 is too many-8 more realistic

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#272 hallelujah

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 05:21 PM


10 is too many-8 more realistic

edj


Does this mean that I need to sell some of mine? :question:
 

#273 edwincjones

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 06:15 PM



10 is too many-8 more realistic

edj


Does this mean that I need to sell some of mine? :question:



for me, binoculars are to be used,
not staying in a box.
if I am not using them,
someone else should have them

mine go from 5-37x, 21-150mms
that really is enough

edj
 

#274 RussL

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 06:43 PM

Tasco 7x35, wide field: general purpose.
Bushnell 8x30, wide field: out of collimation, so I don't use.
Celestron Ultima DX 10x50: astronomy.
Focal 20x60: my Dad's old pair, hard to look through, but not a bad image when you find something--very narrow field (3°).

Gave my son my old Tasco 10x50s.
 

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 03:24 PM

Whoops there goes 200 pairs!
 


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