Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:23 AM
Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:30 AM
Posted 30 July 2009 - 05:40 PM
Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:13 PM
I too found it difficult to create an acceptable image (in my estimation) given the required constraints. So I will not be entering. Please don't read this as a complaint as I agree with the underlying philosophy, it's just not right for me at this time.
I found it difficult to compress my Veil Nebula image to 100K. Photoshop CS2 wouldn't do it. In the dialog it said it was making an image smaller than 100K, but the image on the disk ended up larger than that. What happened to JPEG2000? It was supposed to give cleaner and tighter compression than JPEG. I ended up moving the image into Aperture, then exporting it from there. It was able to make the image less than 100K, though the quality isn't what I like. I'll probably get a better scan and alignment done in October then put a final image on my website.
Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:26 PM
I had to take the final image down to 8 bit first, then resize to 800 x 800. This greatly reduced the image size with CS2. Then quality was set to match the 100k limit.
I think you can still play around with the frame and re-submit it again if that works for you???
This is going to be one great frame when you are done with the drum scans. I bumped into Joe O'Neil up here at a meeting. He mentioned his stash of TP film in the freezer 4x5. I asked him if he was interested in selling it as you may be interested. You'd think I was asking for his right arm. I guess I was.
Posted 30 July 2009 - 08:37 PM
Take a look at the digital work next door, mostly narrow fields with relatively few stars and diffuse nebulae with some sharp details. Much easier to compress and still look half in the bag.
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:03 PM
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:12 PM
I wonder if it would be worth doing a poll - CN that is, to really find how many are on dial up, vs higher speed. Anyone on the astro photography forums has got to be on high speed???
Hey Jim - got any spare E200?
Posted 30 July 2009 - 09:32 PM
All I am saying is, sometimes, given the constraints of this contest, the best looking image might be one that is less than 800px wide.
Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:31 PM
Perhaps the thing that helps is that this is a long focal length view so the stars are pretty large. But the real destination for this image is a 16x20 on the wall anyway. That's why I need to get the drum scan. I've found an expert who really knows how to run his scanner, but $$$x3. Previous results are at www.rickthurmond.com. Look for M33 and M8 there.
Posted 30 July 2009 - 11:45 PM
Posted 31 July 2009 - 05:00 AM
As you say Brendan, wide-fields suffer here. A wide shot including the Pleiades would render it like a blue corn flake..........
Not my cup of tea.
Posted 31 July 2009 - 05:09 AM
On another note. Digital has "replaced" film. That statement is accepted elsewhere at CN, but shouldn't we recognize at least that dial-up modems went the way of the dinosours? Perhaps not, we should have a poll as Igor suggested.
Posted 31 July 2009 - 11:59 AM
We love the frame your took. Would either yourself or Rick consider entering the monthly contest under the Film Forum. We would be honoured.
Asking Robert to enter the contest is akin to asking Payton Manning to join the high school football team. He was doing great astrophotgraphy before some of the guys were even born.
But that's just my opinion.
Posted 31 July 2009 - 02:33 PM
Robert - I probably stepped outside the boundaries here. Sorry. I for one, would ask that you keep posting any film images you take for enjoyment, and we will simply enjoy it for what they are. Great frames that we can look up to.
Posted 31 July 2009 - 08:28 PM
1. I most certainly will continue to post photos and Igor I have seen no offense with any of the posts in this forum...but don't expect a lot of stuff real soon...I try and avoid work when ever I can!
2. Thanks for the kudos Jim regarding the work Brad Wallis and I did so many years ago, but really by today's standards, it was mediocre at best!
This is a great forum and you guys have it right. Keep up the good work. However, maybe at some point in the future, contest rules will be updated to better accommodate some of the new great work that's being done with film (like Rick's).
Posted 08 October 2009 - 10:00 PM