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#26 Bensi

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 04:17 AM

after cleaning and collimation....

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#27 Robert A.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:23 PM

I love your picture of your work table! I see your tools, and the disassembled binoculars. It is encouraging to see how you do the work, and your organization.
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#28 Simon S

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:37 PM

Good work Bensi, what are your thoughts on the collimation methods? The prisms are prone to chipping on this model. I am surprised that a service binocular design has such a fragile system for locking fragile glass parts when the chances of them being knocked and dropped is fairly likley.
 

#29 chris charen

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 03:53 AM

Good find ! Collectors heaven.
Got these two 'brand new' Japanese Manon 8x30 and SNS 7x35 binos.
Never used. All original boxs, caps etc.
Both from the late 60's and all in mint condition.
Cost a total of US$60. :)

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 03:58 AM

and

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#31 chris charen

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 04:01 AM

and the SNS

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 04:03 AM

and last photo

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#33 Bensi

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 01:45 AM

Collimation system that has this B & L to 1WW me a little surprised, but still works well.
However, the 12 screws in total and by moving the prisms are so many regular and are hidden under the grip of black clay.
I did not find even if I had not opened and removed the binoculars.
Last night I collimated instead a wonderful Voigtlander 9x20 is that instead of 1895-97 coincided with the thickness below the prisms.
But I will talk about another topic.

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#34 Bensi

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 02:10 AM

A Voigtlander 9x20 prismatic end 800' back to original quality.
Its serial number is only 3791.
I've purchased in a market for old things, which takes place in my city once a month.
Who sold it to me had given him a clean light but was not collimated.
I fell in love immediately because they have been waiting a Voigtlander for my collection.
In two different phases of work, I disassembled and cleaned lenses and prisms earlier, after, eyepieces and prisms rear.
At the end of work are extremely pleased, because this Voigtalnder is a rare example of binoculars that has returned to the original optical performance.

Contrast, sharpness and perfect collimation.
Obviously the only real limitation of this vintage binoculars is the FOV.
Here is the images folder.
http://quasar.teoth....s.php?album=134
Bye

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 03:11 AM

Wow Besi they look great! The condition looks great considering they are 110 years old.
 

#36 Bensi

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 04:08 AM

I have 4 binoculars are of the same historical period at the end of 1800 '.
Dollond 8x20, Goerz 12x20, Ross 10x20, and that Voigtlander 9x20, but Dollond 8x20 and this Voigtlander are those that are optically perfect and very clean, similar to original state.
The other two are in very good condition but... one point less, optically speaking, because I was not able to clean 100% prisms.

Need the hard way (acid, limestone).

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#37 potts34

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 10:35 AM

beautiful, Bensi another good find.

bello, Bensi un altro buon ritrovamento.
 

#38 Bensi

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 02:57 PM

Thank you.

Return to the previous message, because I made a small error in the trial Goerz 12x20.
This afternoon I have rebuilt a comparison between binocular I have mentioned, and Goerz is near the level of cleanliness of the other two (Dollond and Voigtlander) instead and the ROSS that I have to clean up again in the prisms.
There is no hurry ...
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Posted 14 October 2009 - 02:02 PM

Another surprisingly good performer,Vesper 7x35 J-B241 costing a staggering £4. The internals were very clear apart from a spot of fungus on the oculars and came with the lens caps and a scruffy case. The view is far better than most of my other 7x35's including all the Tasco's and was a real surprise.

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 01:27 AM

I have a pair of Vesper in the 10x 50 the image etc is pretty good but the build quality is superb, JB113 so
Ito Kogaku Kikai Seisakujo. Inc.

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 01:55 PM

One of the best Japanese binoculars has got to be the Yashica models. I have already commented on my 10x50's and 8x30's but I have just bought a pair of near mint 7x50's that needed a thin layer of dust removing from the top prisms. These are fully multicoated, all the glass has a blue tint to it including the prism surfaces. Although not as wide as the Jenoptem's and using lower index glass in the prisms, colour and sharpness is close to the latter Zeiss although not as bright mainly due to the inferior coatings and prism quality.
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Posted 16 October 2009 - 06:28 PM

Years ago, I was able to pick up a WW2 Zeiss Naval 7x50 for $19.95 at the V.V. boutique. More correctly , they are the Zeiss 'Smooth Oculars'. What a beautiful instrument. I am still hoping for a repeat performance.
Today, I went to the local St. Vinnie's and through the front window I could see what looked like a really high quality leather case, with something 'black' on top.
I went in and it's a good job I saw the price label before I could see what they were as I would have collapsed on the spot had I walked into a junk shop and seen some WW2 Leitz 7x50 U-Boat specials for sale. The price was $950, so they had obviously done their homework. No, I didn't buy them, my limit for 'Optical Exotica' is about $100.
Hopefully the little old lady that donated them to the church will not be in the store to see what poor old George's (or maybe Fritz's) binoculars were worth!
Funnily enough, I did carry on to Value Village where they must have had over a dozen binocs for sale, including some very wide angled ones. I should have paid more attention as you guys were just talking about them.
 

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 03:55 AM

came to me from Great Britain a really interesting piece.
But I did not think he had a such high quality.

An E. Krauss 6x25 of 1WW gridded eyepiece sx (I will send you a picture of the lattice inside) very compact and lightweight.
Although it is to clean the image and is really very very sharp and contrasted and collimated.


No bag and strap ... but unimportant.

I enclose for now only the picture of the sale, but then send you photographs of very close and left eyepiece.

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 06:52 AM

Unfortunately, the photo you sent was taken with the phone and then do not ask me too!

I send you a picture of the graticule inside the eyepiece sx.

You notice the black spots at the edges which are small pieces of paint inside the compartment of prisms which came in the eyepiece and rotate with it.

Of course I'm going to work to clean the eyepiece.

However I have to congratulate E. Krauss (Paris) since the beginning of this century, binoculars, there are several that I have, has a clear image almost to the edges and of course very "tangent condition"!

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 11:07 AM

I was going to pm this one but it may be interesting for everybody else?
looking at Simon's Flikr Yashica 7x 50's I was amazed to see how close they are to my Limer 7x50's, now I know these things do look similar but they look identical,position of the cover holes, focus wheel, eye pieces etc etc.
The Limer have no JB number just a lozenge with O.T.C in side on the axle end cap, I'll post a few pics for interest/reference.

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 11:08 AM

another pic

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 11:09 AM

and another..

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 11:10 AM

and another...

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 11:11 AM

and last one...

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 11:09 PM

I just got a Swift Admiral Mk1 10x50. It has huge prisms. Like something to fit Klingon hands. I don't think it has quite the advertised FOV, however.

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