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Cold Weather and the TV Ranger

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 08:43 AM

Do any of you have a problem with your Ranger when it's cold? Could hardly use mine last night (below 20 degrees). Draw tub would stick then give ,then stick again. Is this just a good warm night scope and a cold night piece of junk? Waited decades to buy a quality scope, thought I did but guess I failed.



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Posted 08 December 2003 - 08:59 AM

I was looking at the Ranger and Pronto (bought the Pronto) and noticed that there was a fair amount of lub in the helical focuser. Personel experience with cold and lub tell me that is the source of your problem. Stuff turns to glue!

I think we have some northern Ranger owners that can recommend a good cold weather lub. I've used Break-Free with great success back in Minnesota on throttle cables. In some cases removing all lube is your only recourse (when it is extremely cold - but what the heck are you doing out then anyway? :D ).

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 09:18 AM

I think Rboe hit it on the head, what the heck are you doing out at 20 degrees anyway? I just use my Starry nite PC program and drink a hot drink verses suffering when its under 32 period. There is also metal shrinkage during freezing temps that can also slightly effect it. The combination of both the shrinkage and the lubes makeup are going to affect the feel in such cold weather, you didnt buy a bad scope you have a nice one believe me. Dave

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 09:50 AM

There is also metal shrinkage during freezing temps


I read that as mental shrinkage...

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 10:10 AM

Living in Toronto (as in Canada), we deal with extreme cold all to often. The answer is to remove all the grease that is currently on your focuser (and any other part of your scope and/or mount that is affected by cold temps), and replace it with a white lithium grease such as used for snowmobiles, etc. We get ours at Canadian Tire in small tubes (you don't need much), but you should be able to find it at either auto or marine supply stores. It is much cleaner, and simply works. I rebuilt my EQ5/CG5 mount with this, and the improvement was immediately obvious at all temperatures. Now if I could find a way to keep myself functioning in the cold, I'd do a lot more winter observing (snowmobile outfits are standard issue for Canadian astronomers...looks kind of silly, but it's better that freezing your **** off!).
Let me know if this solves your problems.
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 03:15 PM

Guys,

Thanks for the advice. I"ll try some new grease and let everyone know.

Since when is 20 degrees cold? 0 degrees for sure but if I let a good night pass by in between these tempetures, I wouldn't see much at all in the cloudy northeast. The best skies are now.

Thanks
Scott

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 04:37 PM

I was thinking 20 below zero F. That will shrink your knickers. :D

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Posted 08 December 2003 - 04:45 PM

Scott,
As far as I'm concerned, -20 is cold no matter what the scale, C or F!
Where in the NE do you live?
John


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Posted 09 December 2003 - 08:41 AM

Guys,

Two things:

1) How and what will remove the grease?

2) Below 20 degrees F is not -20 degrees F, it +19 degrees through 0 degrees, which is my absolute limit for telescope use.

I might not be the smartest person on the planet, out in the cold at night but I'm not crazy! (yet)

Scott

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Posted 09 December 2003 - 08:50 AM

2) Below 20 degrees F is not -20 degrees F, it +19 degrees through 0 degrees, which is my absolute limit for telescope use.


I remember when 20 degrees was not all that bad. But I had to be moving. 50 degrees and just sitting is hard to take now. :bawling:

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Posted 09 December 2003 - 09:41 AM

Scott,
You can use any degreaser-type product (even gasoline, but that's WAY to dangerous for my tastes) such as terpentine, paint cleaner/thinner, etc. You can find some ideas by going to www.astronomyboy.com and looking at the instructions for cleaning and rebuilding the EQ5 mount.
John

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Posted 10 December 2003 - 12:21 AM

Kerosene is pretty safe, just stinks to hi heaven. Thats what I usually used on autoparts etc.. when rebuilding things. Dosent hurt anything metal that I know of, its what I used to clean all the parts of my LXD55 when I overhauled it also. Didnt effect the plastic shims either but I didnt soak them in it just wiped them with a rag soaked in it so use caution any otherway.
Dave


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