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#1 Swedpat

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 07:53 AM

The selling tricks are many when it comes to binoculars. I found an advertisement for a Carson Z80S New SuperZoom 20-80x25 Compact Zoom Binocular. In the description stands among other things: "25mm objective lens for bright images".
They seem to have a sence of humour...sure, everything is relative...:smirk:

http://store.flyaway...B0000XO3XM.html

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 10:15 AM

Are you implying that a .3125mm exit pupil at 80x wouldn't be "bright"?? ;)

It's hard to imagine hand holding these at 20x much less at 80x. P.T. Barnum was right! There IS a sucker born every minute.........

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 11:03 AM

Why only 80x compact binoculars, get 125x compact super zoom and use them handheld . :grin:

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 12:42 PM

That's bright compared to the 20-80x15 zoom.

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 06:33 PM

Why only 80x compact binoculars, get 125x compact super zoom and use them handheld . :grin:
Joe


I'm astounded...


That's bright compared to the 20-80x15 zoom.
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Do those binos really exist?

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 06:39 PM

Are you implying that a .3125mm exit pupil at 80x wouldn't be "bright"?? ;)

It's hard to imagine hand holding these at 20x much less at 80x. P.T. Barnum was right! There IS a sucker born every minute.........

Rich V


Maybe they are possible to use for sun studies without need of a sun filter...

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 07:52 PM

Swed;

Man that's harsh:)lol

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 12:54 PM

I wrote in another thread about my wondering why they don't produce zoom binoculars with a more useful magnification range.
In my opinion these extreme magnifications is a selling argument to swindle ignorant people.

I'm not a fan of zoom oculars at all, neither in binoculars or spottingscopes, but I would be fairly interested if someone produced a high quality useful zoom compact of, for example, 5-10x25 or maybe 5-15x25. A such binocular would be a compact night glass and a high power bino for day use in one package.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:46 PM

I believe you'll find the general consensus around here is that zoom bins are to be completely avoided.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 02:19 PM

I believe you'll find the general consensus around here is that zoom bins are to be completely avoided.


Yes, I understand that. But the question is if that depends of the bad performance of the most existing zoom binoculars over the years. If I'm right zoom oculars are quite accepted in spottingscopes. My guess is that one reason of the negative attitude of zoom binoculars is unusable high powers instead of lower real useful powers.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 02:46 PM

I believe you'll find the general consensus around here is that zoom bins are to be completely avoided.

A 125x 27mm non-zoom binocular would be just as bad.


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