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#1 Emanuele

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 07:49 PM

Can you guys believe that between a 7" STF Mirage and a 8" STF Mirage there are $1400??

I mean for $1400 for only 1 more inch? I say it is too much, no?

#2 garyc11

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 07:56 PM

i have noticed on a lot of scopes there seems to be a huge jump in price for a small jump in aperture. how did your plug work out?

#3 Emanuele

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 08:00 PM

...ya, but that jump is huge!

Plug: as suggested, that plug worked perfectly, although I will change it sometime soon! I received the trickle chager though so don`t need that cable anymore, as I will use the 18V pluf from the Kendrick Battery :) (thanks for asking)

#4 Tim2723

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 08:50 PM

The difference between a 6" and 7" Intes Mak is nearly $1500. I went with the 6" and bought everything else I wanted to go with it.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 10:45 PM

Racers have a saying that expresses the same idea - Speed costs. How fast do you want to go?

They may spend many thousands of dollars just to squeeze out one extra mph or save one 1/10 second of elapsed time. So, amateur astronomers are not alone in our search for 'perfection'. :grin:

Everything's relative I guess!

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#6 Emanuele

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 10:55 PM

Tim, I might just do that.....7" is still not bad as far as aperture, no? I might squeeze in a CCD too with the money saved..

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 10:59 PM

7" is a very respectable aperture for a quality Mak. I don't know anything about CCD imaging, but the Intes products are very well made and highly regarded generally. I'm very pleased with my MK66.

#8 Emanuele

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 11:23 PM

:) Thanks Tim...

I have my eyes on either the STF Mirage or the Intes Mak Newts, although I like the idea of fans and the shorter\easier to move OTA...

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 09:19 AM

Don has a point there, some friends of mine race cars and to do a "10" (10 seconds on the 1/4) is not super expensive, but not cheap. But to do a low 10 or a 9, it costs alot more, and then the curve just gets out of proportion for every 10th of a second down.

Maybe its the same with scopes, up to a certain aperture its still reasonably expensive (its never cheap tho!), but as soon as you cross some sorta threshold the price just skyrockets.

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 02:35 PM

Don has a point there, some friends of mine race cars and to do a "10" (10 seconds on the 1/4) is not super expensive, but not cheap. But to do a low 10 or a 9, it costs alot more, and then the curve just gets out of proportion for every 10th of a second down.

Maybe its the same with scopes, up to a certain aperture its still reasonably expensive (its never cheap tho!), but as soon as you cross some sorta threshold the price just skyrockets.


I can't believe that they drag race for a 1/4 mile in Sweden. It's not metric!

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 03:56 PM

"I can't believe that they drag race for a 1/4 mile in Sweden. It's not metric!"

When I was in Sweden in '86 I was surprise at all the classic American cars I saw from the '50's.

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 08:36 PM

Haha! Well since I am posting on an american forum i thought it would be appropiate to use the 1/4 reference. I do think they commonly refer to it as "402" instead of the 1/4 =)

And yes ofcourse American cars from the 50's are popular, I wouldnt mind a Bel Air 57 myself =)

Sorry for the hijack!

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 06:43 AM

Hey Emanuele,
If you think $1400 an inch is bad, try pricing the larger Takahashi Dall-Kirhams. The difference between the 12" and the 10" is $9320! And those come on the same mount with the same Goto. That's $4660 an inch for the extra couple inches. $20K for a 12" scope? Ummm,... no thankyou. For the difference in cost of those 2 Taks, one could buy a complete 14" LX200 with Goto, a suitcase full of Naglers and a good astrophoto rig. Sometimes, costing more isn't really the same as going faster (further). Sometimes stuff just costs more. I'm all for pointing out cost differences that make little sense.

#14 Emanuele

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 08:43 AM

yes, they do make little sense....you are right lighttrap! I think 7" will be more than enough for me.....at least for now.

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 09:14 AM

I'm not sure what pricing source you're using, but your numbers are askew. The Mewlon 250 (9.8") is ~$6000 and the 300 (11.8") goes for a cool $13,500 - a difference of about $7500, for about 2 inches, or about $3750 an inch. Yes, it is pricey. :shocked: However, comparing a Mewlon to a Meade, well, that's just not fair... One is a Chevy, the other is a Ferrari. Both have a place, but you can't compare them...

owner of a Mewlon 250 ;)


Hey Emanuele,
If you think $1400 an inch is bad, try pricing the larger Takahashi Dall-Kirhams. The difference between the 12" and the 10" is $9320! And those come on the same mount with the same Goto. That's $4660 an inch for the extra couple inches. $20K for a 12" scope? Ummm,... no thankyou. For the difference in cost of those 2 Taks, one could buy a complete 14" LX200 with Goto, a suitcase full of Naglers and a good astrophoto rig. Sometimes, costing more isn't really the same as going faster (further). Sometimes stuff just costs more. I'm all for pointing out cost differences that make little sense.



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Posted 29 June 2005 - 10:56 AM

I was using these figures provided by our sponsor. $20,349 for the 12" and $11,029 for the 10" = $9320.

#17 Chris Curran

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Posted 29 June 2005 - 11:14 AM

The numbers you quote use different mounts and therefor cannot be used in a cost comparison between OTA's (the M300 is on a NJP, a much costly mount that the EM200). The more appropriate comparison is the price of the OTA, as from our sponsor here.

I was using these figures provided by our sponsor. $20,349 for the 12" and $11,029 for the 10" = $9320.



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Posted 04 July 2005 - 01:31 AM

actually the price could be about the same per square inch remember Area = pi r2

from the uk site i found (so price is in pounds)
a 7 deluxe was £1595
the 8 was £2095

10.38 an inch for the 7
10.50 an ich for the 8..
the 7 is 154 sq" the 8 is 201 sq"

now they had a base model 7 for 1300
that would be about 8.44 per inch
so that would have a difference .

#19 Olivier Biot

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Posted 04 July 2005 - 01:48 PM

actually the price could be about the same per square inch remember Area = pi r2


And maybe you could ask for a refund for the additional central obstruction :lol:

Cheers!

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Posted 04 July 2005 - 04:06 PM

I don't know about you guys, but when "toy" prices reach that far into the stratosphere, if you have to ask how much it costs you probably can't afford it :bawling:

Don :usa:

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 01:30 PM

works that way with boats...if you have to ask how much it costs to fill the tank it isn't the right boat for you.

#22 Chris Curran

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 01:41 PM

;)

works that way with boats...if you have to ask how much it costs to fill the tank it isn't the right boat for you.



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Posted 05 July 2005 - 04:24 PM

works that way with boats...if you have to ask how much it costs to fill the tank it isn't the right boat for you.


That's why I have a canoe. :lol:

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 04:47 PM

And to think I recently built a 30" Dob for about $5500

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 05:00 PM

Wow! $5500 for a 30" sure does put things in perspective. Way to go!


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