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#1 davidmcharg

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 05:49 PM

I currently use two pairs of binoculars for day and night -
Zeiss 8x30 BGA and Nikon Superior E 10x42. I love binocular observing but i have to admit i find neck strain is really becoming a big factor for any kind of extended observing. Which binoc mount would allow me to sit down whilst observing ? I am concerned that something like a virgo mount will not eliminate neck strain ?

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 07:05 PM

I don't think you really need a tripod for binos with that power. If you have a stiff neck, perhaps you should just invest in a light weight chair that allows you to lean back. I use the simple one shown below, but there are others that allow you to tip back far enough to point at the zenith. If you decide to try the chair approach, I am sure that others on this forum will be able to suggest many other chairs to use.

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 11:49 PM

I use a Bogen tripod for my Fujinon 7x50s. It is more for steadyness than neck strain. It does help with the neck, but
the fujis are heavier than what you have.

I agree with the above advise that a good lounge chair would help more with neck disconfort-easier on the back and legs also.

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 06:03 AM

The Virgo style mount cannot be used successfully from a seated position.

The Universal Astronomics Unimount Basic works very well from a seated position. The Deluxe model is the best UA mount for seated viewing.

http://www.cloudynig...bino_mounts.pdf

http://www.cloudynig...rt=7&thecat=500

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Posted 02 July 2005 - 09:40 PM

I don't think you really need a tripod for binos with that power. If you have a stiff neck, perhaps you should just invest in a light weight chair that allows you to lean back.


I concur heartily with this recommendation - my favorite chair is a suncatcher which I find very satisfying with handheld binoculars as you can swivel through 360 degrees by just kicking your feet and it goes far enough back that you can view at the Zenith with little discomfort. I use a pair of Image-Stabilized 18x50's, but with 8x30 handholding is not a big issue and even with 10x42's it's more than satisfactory. And even with large binoculars when I use a p-mount I have still found this chair to be one of the best ways to observe.

I posted a picture on my back deck
that shows what the Suncatcher chair looks like.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:33 AM

Might be a little overkill for that small of a binocular, but here is a little page I made when I built my p-mount for my 15x70's:
P-Mount directions

It works very well from a seated position, I used a reclining lawn chair to observe in.

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#7 Craig Simmons

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 06:22 AM

Here is my solution to neck strain.

http://tinyurl.com/7ru93

Bino Chair on a turntable that suspends the binos in front of you. Easy to build if you have some basic carpentry knowledge and tools. Costs about $160 +/- (USD) in materials to build. Free plans can be found here in the Binocular Forum under "Bino Pod I" or "Bino Pod II" plans.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 07:34 AM

I have the same chair AJ. It works great! I have not used it for astronomy, but as a potential astro chair I can tell it would be just fine. My situation is that since I don't have a p-mount for either of my bins, neck strain is a constant nuisance.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 10:47 AM

"Might be a little overkill"

Overkill?????????........I have overkill on the brain.....somebody shoot me ! 600 pounds of solid support.
THATS overkill !

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 12:06 PM

Root canal and star-gazing at the same time! :p That certainly is overkill, makes my mount look like matchsticks.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 04:25 PM

I concur heartily with this recommendation - my favorite chair is a suncatcher which I find very satisfying with handheld binoculars as you can swivel through 360 degrees by just kicking your feet and it goes far enough back that you can view at the Zenith with little discomfort.

I posted a picture on my back deck
that shows what the Suncatcher chair looks like.



May I know where have you bought your Suncatcher chair from?
Can't find anything on Google (at least the first couple of pages).

#12 Craig Simmons

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 05:02 PM

Universal Astronomics sells them under the name StarTracker. There's heavy duty and medium duty chairs of this type to choose from. UA carries the HD version.

http://www.universal...ackerChair.html


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