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#1 Emanuele

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 09:03 AM

HI guys...

quick question for you:

would you get a scope NEW or used from Astromart? I'm finalizing my decision on the STF Mirage 7" for $2400, although I 've seen a couple on astromart, and some good deals on other scopes too.

Question is if it is more convenient getting it used or new...

Tomorrow Stellar Optical will be ordering the scopes, so I will have to give him an answer...

Thanks

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 11:01 AM

all of my scopes were bought used..
bought from astromart, cloudynights and ebay.
all have been great. Saved me boat loads of cash.

that includes:
LX200 10"f10
120ST f5
LX200 8 f10
Orion 90mm Mak
LX200 8" 6.3
Orion 80ED

and a used nexstar 5 I bought used from a Hands on optics.

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 11:09 AM

The price would have to be very close to a used scopes for me to buy it new. Under $300 and probably more like $200. I have great luck with astromart gear and cloudy night gear that I just can't purchase something new. I couldn't have bought my nexstar 11 new, matter of fact I didn't even think about it until I saw a used one in my price range!

#4 Emanuele

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 12:20 PM

hmmm alrighty guys ...

only matter is that the scope would be perfectly as stated in the ad.

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 01:53 PM

I asked a lot of questions first.. be specific too, like are there any scratches, if so how bad..are the coatings OK etc..most of mine had great pictures. a lot of people try and say it has xlt or uhtc coatings on older scopes, but they are mistaking it for fully coated optics.
There is a difference , but to me it wasn't a 1400$ difference. That was the difference between a lx200 10" classic vs a new one. if i was buying new I would of had to get a lxd55 8"....big difference.

I tend to look here and on astromart first...ebay is ok but , the people run more scams there or are selling dad's old scope etc and no nothing about them... vs the astronomy sites are more of I, want a bigger scope so this has to go.
I find that they take great care of. their equipment in general....some exception of course

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 02:58 PM

well I posted an ad for a 7" STF Mirage but no offers yet. I have not seen too many Mirages on astromart though...


are there any other scope with the same quality?

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 03:18 PM

what about a C9.25...can it be compared to the quality, in optics and built, of the STFs?

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 03:58 PM

seems like the st7 are more plentiful in Europe. but you may get a hit on your ad after a few days.
the c 9.25 has a very loyal following some say it is the perfect balance. another one to look at is the vixen 200 series...in doing some reading it looks very interesting for photo work...nice flat images, low cool down time built in dew shield. etc there are a few posters in cloudynights with them.

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 04:03 PM

Thanks Mike...

The c9.25 is only $1200, although it does not have a built in fan, nor the zero image shift focuser...

Never looked on the Vixen series though...

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 08:04 PM

How about an Intes Alter 703? http://www.iteastron...hp?cat=TEL AVID

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 08:32 PM

I thought about that scope before but I have heard some guys that had bad experience with ITE...

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 10:38 PM

I'd have to question anyone's having problems with ITE - that's just not the way Mike Palermiti is; he's well-regarded in our parts...

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 10:43 PM

ops...he is? then i guess I spoke only to guys that had problems with ITE. My fault.

Question is now: would a C9.25 be better than those high quality SCT like ITE's or STF's?

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 10:55 PM

Obviously, I'm a big 9.25 fan. Daniel Mounsey rates the 9.25 as one of the finest planetary scopes you can get (the aluminum can).

On Ed Ting's site Scopereviews.com, only the TakSCT225, the AP Mak, the Questar and the Cervalo rate higher (in his big picture of things).

Let's just say that it is darn sharp and anyway you slice it, it is a DEAL for the money.

IF the Meade RCX, Mewlon, Mirage ect ARE better - you pay a lot of money for a relatively small gain in sharpness of view. But hey, many of us would gladly pay thousands for a slight edge in performance!

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Posted 11 July 2005 - 11:52 PM

ahhhhh now I'm once more in the middle of the road, as we say in Italy.

can the 9.25 be used for imaging a well. i have seen its planetary work, but what about widefields or deep sky?

I will be using it for visual as well, but would like to be more focused on imaging :)

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 12:09 AM

With your Denks in widefield mode you are set. Spectacular!

It can be used for imaging. Get the Carbon Fiber one for that.

It makes a great combo with a widefield refractor like the Megrez.

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 12:14 AM

Thanks piano...

I've read somewhere that the carbon fiber ones are not that good though...trying to remember where. I think was something like the internal currents were not dissipating quikcly enough with the carbon fiber...

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:30 AM

bah..If i got one it would be carbon for sure...no dents lighter, tougher, get one of those sct cooling fans and you will be good to go.

like i said many of the 9 owners feel it has some of the best glass around. in fact those that get bigger scopes , will keepe that 9.25 around.

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 09:32 AM

hmmm thanks Mike...

will research a bit around...there's one up on Amart right now but is AL...


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