Are these new?
Posted 27 July 2005 - 08:05 AM
It would be nice if Orion and other stores would carry Vixen products so we could try before we buy.
Posted 27 July 2005 - 08:25 AM
I'm 3000 miles from Adorama and almost walking distance from
Posted 27 July 2005 - 08:43 AM
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Posted 27 July 2005 - 09:10 AM
I want to touch and look through these Vixens before I buy.
Posted 27 July 2005 - 09:20 AM
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Posted 27 July 2005 - 07:52 PM
I thought a couple of years ago TV became the US importer of Vixen, or something like that.
Posted 28 July 2005 - 10:47 AM
The 16X80 appeals most to me, with a 4.3 degree TFOV it would be one of the widest field 80mm mid power binos out there, I think the Orion and Generic 16X and 15X 80mm's only have around 3.5 TFOV.
This past April I had to get in touch with the Vixen North American importer to obtain my Vixen 7X50's.
Posted 28 July 2005 - 11:11 AM
the 20x80 is listed as a 3.3° Tfov, 66° Afov.
the 12x80 lists a 4.5° Tfov, Afov = 54°
Posted 28 July 2005 - 11:29 AM
Posted 28 July 2005 - 11:39 AM
I'll try contacting Vixen directly to see what they say.
Posted 28 July 2005 - 01:39 PM
the 16x80 is listed as 3.5° Tfov with a 52.5° Afov which is actually a 3.25° Tfov. That's about the same as Orion's old 16x80 Giant which was 3.3°, which I think was a Vixen and which was discontinued about 3 years ago. That particular model had poor edge sharpness beyond 60%.
the 20x80 is listed as a 3.3° Tfov, 66° Afov..........
I have the Orion 20X80( Japanese, 2001)last sold for $399. It's marked as having 3.5 deg FOV. Edge sharpness on mine is also poor beyond 60%. Just about unuseable by 70% from center. The bino feel very solid with a metal brace connecting the objectives. Optics are just average.
Paying higher price for "made in Japan" binocular does not guarantee better quality optics for your $$$.
Posted 28 July 2005 - 02:31 PM
the 16x80 is listed as 3.5° Tfov with a 52.5° Afov which is actually a 3.25° Tfov.
Ed, you're looking at the wrong specs. The current "Giant" model has 52,5° AFOV. The new "ARK" model lists 68.8° AFOV for the 16x80, or a 4.3° TFOV.
See this page from Vixen Europe comparing the two series - it's in German but the table at the bottom of the page should be clear enough:
Posted 28 July 2005 - 02:40 PM
There are discrepencies in the specs.
Posted 28 July 2005 - 03:17 PM
I'm glad you found the german site and posted it. It does clear up the discrepencies. BTW: here is the page run through the Google translator. It does a pretty good job of it.
The Vixen Europe site also seems to make it clear that the optics are multi-coated (MC) not fully multi-coated (FMC). I wonder why they left some surfaces uncoated on a relatively expensive instrument? I wonder if it really makes a significant difference?
Posted 28 July 2005 - 03:34 PM
If that stated TFOV of 4.3 degrees IS a mistake , it is not just a TYPO -- the TFOV expressed in metres at 1000m is 75m , which is also 4.3 degrees.
Posted 28 July 2005 - 03:35 PM
You're very welcome, Bill. Let me know if you need any help in translating specific words.
Mark, I'm glad you found the german site and posted it.
Posted 30 July 2005 - 10:05 AM
I will say that it doesn't surprise me that they are actually MC vs FMC since my 7x50's, though very nice, appear to be only MC, one surface remains uncoated. After checking with other RASC members in my RASC Halifax center we all agreed that the optics in our Vixens, whether they be binos or scopes, were very good but the common thread was that of an uncoated surface.