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#1 ForgottenMObject

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 08:34 AM

Check it out on Orion's website - I did a double take on that one. You can now get Celestron SCT scopes with Orion's branding?!

One good thing that may come out of this - hopefully, Celestron will start using the Orion-style finderscopes (2 knobs to adjust instead of 6).

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 08:41 AM

Check it out on Orion's website - I did a double take on that one. You can now get Celestron SCT scopes with Orion's branding?!


That IS a surprise! One nice thing is that it permits them to bundle the Celestron tubes with the Synta mounts. A C11 on a GoTo Atlas mount is only $500 more than a CG5-GT/C11 combo. That's attractive.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:06 AM

Agreed, the prices are nice!

What is interesting is that a combo of Orion/Celestron/Synta should prove a match for Meade, which previously overpowered Celestron by a huge margin.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:46 AM

I agree with John! There are numerous threads here on CN regarding the stability of the C11/CG-5. For an extra $500 all doubts are removed as the payload of the Atlas is easily enough to handle the C11. This must be one of the most attractive scopes for price/performance.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:48 AM

I agree with John! There are numerous threads here on CN regarding the stability of the C11/CG-5. For an extra $500 all doubts are removed as the payload of the Atlas is easily enough to handle the C11. This must be one of the most attractive scopes for price/performance.

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I thought so too :) Just got done putting my order in :jump:

Now the ohh so painful wait begins :crazy:

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 10:25 AM

Anyone know what sort of periodic error the Atlas mount has right out of the box? with PEC enabled?

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 10:27 AM

I thought so too :) Just got done putting my order in :jump:

Now the ohh so painful wait begins :crazy:


Congrats Bobby! Should be a great setup!! Love to see pictures when it arrives (more than a month later :poke:). Sorry, couldn't resist the poke.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 11:59 AM

for what orion charges for shipping it should be there the next day.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 01:06 PM

You guys have gotten one thing wrong. They are not sold with Orion Branding. They are still sold under Celestron's brand, but are just being sold by Orion (as a retailer).

As for periodic error on the atlas, it is pretty huge. And it doesn't have PEC because it doesn't have the computer function.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 01:36 PM

You guys have gotten one thing wrong. They are not sold with Orion Branding. They are still sold under Celestron's brand, but are just being sold by Orion (as a retailer).

As for periodic error on the atlas, it is pretty huge. And it doesn't have PEC because it doesn't have the computer function.


The 8", 9.25", and 11" optical tubes in the photos on Orion's website display labels of "Orion" rather than Celestron. Dunno whether that's just someone in their marketing department fiddling around in PhotoShop or if they really look like that.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 01:38 PM

I doubt they would sell a product that didn't look exactly like their photo. We all know they are Celestrons though.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 01:41 PM

I doubt they would sell a product that didn't look exactly like their photo. We all know they are Celestrons though.


Sure - and they describe them as a Celestron product in the text portion of the ad.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 02:11 PM

The new Atlas with Goto does include PEC.

Atlas™ EQ-G Equatorial GoTo Mount

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 02:40 PM

After reading the specs and looking at the pics, I would say that the EQ-6 Skyscan and Atlas w/GOTO are the same except brandname.

It will be nice for those who purchased the EQ-6 Skyscan to hopefully get upgrades from Orion.

The C-11 sits well on the EQ-6. I like the way the GOTOs "snap" into place (after slewing to an object) vs. the CG-5's slowmo adjustment.

I've been drift aligning the mount and will be able to test the PEC soon.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 03:21 PM

You guys have gotten one thing wrong. They are not sold with Orion Branding. They are still sold under Celestron's brand, but are just being sold by Orion (as a retailer).

As for periodic error on the atlas, it is pretty huge. And it doesn't have PEC because it doesn't have the computer function.


The 8" and 9.25" are shown in grey tubes with the Orion branding on the side. This morning there was a 11" on the website, but now I see that it is gone.

The Atlas does have PEC and an autoguider port.

The C-11 sits well on the EQ-6. I like the way the GOTOs "snap" into place (after slewing to an object) vs. the CG-5's slowmo adjustment.

I've been drift aligning the mount and will be able to test the PEC soon.


It would sure be nice to get some numbers!! Let us know how it goes Frank!!

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 03:26 PM

There was a lot of shuffling around of things on Orion's website today, including additions of entry level GoTo reflectors from Celestron, and probably some other stuff we haven't yet seen.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 03:34 PM

Now, if only Orion would get a hold of some NP127 scopes paint them grey and sell them for $1500.. :whistle:

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 08:22 PM

Boy, do I ever look like a Johnny come lately! I've only been looking in on the "hot new products" page, and missed a whole bunch of cool stuff!

I want a silver 9.25 on an Atlas EQG. Drrroooollll.....

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 08:35 PM

That Celestron Starseeker 80 is probably the coolest color I have ever seen on a telescope. Ever.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:15 PM

I wonder how the Starseeker 80 performs next to an Express 80. Less money and with full go to. The color is awesome

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:18 PM

Would the Atlas mount support a 14" SCT?

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:28 PM

Would the Atlas mount support a 14" SCT?


A late model C14 goes a little over 40 pounds. It'd be right at the edge. The older C14's are heavier and the Meades are MUCH heavier.

I've had one loaded with a Meade 10" (a little heavier than a C11) plus a 4" Tele Vue refractor. That was probably close to 40 pounds. It was fine for visual use at that load; might have even been OK for casual imaging but I never tried it.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:36 PM

I wonder how the Starseeker 80 performs next to an Express 80. Less money and with full go to. The color is awesome


The Starseeker 80 has been around for several years as the Nexstar 60GT and the Tasco Starguide 60GT. The Starseeker has the new controller so the mount should perform a little better, but the optical tube is probably the same. At 80mm and F/5, an excellent conventional achromat has issues that limit the maximum useful magnification to 100X or less under most conditions - and that hasn't been an excellent unit. There's no way of knowing what it is about the Express that makes them refer to it as a "semi-APO", but if it uses decent ED glass (only a guess on my part) it will make a big difference.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:54 PM

I wonder how the Starseeker 80 performs next to an Express 80. Less money and with full go to. The color is awesome


The tube looks to be the same as the Short Tube 80.

I will never be happy again until I own a 6" apo in that color... :help:


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