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#1 memento

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:30 PM

Hi, I just bought this telescope that I found in a local ad described as "telescope, complete" with nothing more than a picture of the open box. The picture showed that everything was there (mount, scope, finder, eyepieces, accessories) and so I bought it, with the main intention of giving my makeshift Tasco 60 short tube a new mount.

From the picture, I thought it would probably be a Royal Astro telescope but now that I have it, it's a circle K. I assume it was made in the early 70s, as it came with a styrofoam box.

Here's a pic of the complete setup:

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:33 PM

It came with a set of these three eyepieces, it seems to be original that way but I am not sure?

An interesting thing is that I already have an identical 40mm AH eyepiece that was sold by Celestron back in those days (still have the original orange box for that eyepiece).

As said before, I can't tell at this point if that 40mm originally came with the Revue scope or not.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:35 PM

That is a very nice scope

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:36 PM

The focuser has the standard Vixen 36.4mm thread and the original adapter for .095" eyepieces has a nice clamp mechanism that is fastened by the metal barrel-type screw at the rear. (no little setscrew) The picture shows the original diagonal and the aforementioned 40mm eyepiece. If these three eyepieces were original, I reckon that their magnifications were very well selected for this type of scope (40mm gives 23x, 15mm gives 61x, 10mm gives 91x). No outrageous magnifications here.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:40 PM

That is a very nice scope. It sure does have a lot of Royal Astro attributes. Congrats on a great find. I bet it will give you great views and that mount will be very steady.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:40 PM

Here's the sticker. I have to say that the scope looks almost exactly as I got it. There were signs of very much dust in some small spots that tell me it has been left without its box at some point in its life but the sellers did apparently give their best to clean it before they sold it. The only thing they did not clean (thankfully) were the lenses. "Revue" is the brand name for technical equipment of a major German retailer ("Quelle"). A lot of stereos, photo cameras and scopes etc. were sold under that "Revue" name for decades.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:43 PM

Here's the lens, it's an air spaced achromat. I had to take it apart to thoroughly clean it and made some marks in an effort to not rotate the two lenses. However when I got the scope the retaining ring that helds the lenses in their cell was very loose and the lenses would rattle a bit, so I am not sure if the lenses have probably already rotated in past. Nor do I know if it does matter for this kind of scope, anyway. I had no chance to do a star test so far.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 02:47 PM

Here's a closeup at the finder. It's all metal but I guess it's a simple lens. You can unscrew the dewcap-lens-cell thing and then there is a thread inside with a retaining ring that holds the lens.

Oh did I already say how much I love that scope for its looks alone :)

I have already a question and this is about the #1015 on the label. I ran a quick google search on Revue #1015 and found a 60/700 refractor (not 60/910) with that number. Anyone has more insight to this? Also, is it possible to further narrow down the time that the scope was made? I assume early 70s but is that really true? Thomas

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:45 PM

Here's a closeup at the finder. It's all metal but I guess it's a simple lens. You can unscrew the dewcap-lens-cell thing and then there is a thread inside with a retaining ring that holds the lens.

Oh did I already say how much I love that scope for its looks alone :)

I have already a question and this is about the #1015 on the label. I ran a quick google search on Revue #1015 and found a 60/700 refractor (not 60/910) with that number. Anyone has more insight to this? Also, is it possible to further narrow down the time that the scope was made? I assume early 70s but is that really true? Thomas


Hello Thomas, what a great looking scope.

Did the telescope come in a wooden storage box with the styrofoam inserts? What does the clamping side of the tube cradle look like?

I see your focuser has the gold oval Japan Passed inspection sticker on the focuser. That would date your telescope somewhere between the years of 1966 thru 1973 give or take.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:18 PM

Stephen, the box is a cardboard box with one big styrofoam insert. Here's a pic of the box and of the tube lock. Thomas

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:19 PM

Tube lock.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 07:14 AM

Jeez, I was about to say 'the next thread down shows the same mount!' when I figured out both were threads showed the same mount..... nice find, that's a fine vintage scope and mount!
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Posted 29 November 2013 - 07:06 PM

This looks remarkably similar to an Atco 60/910 I just picked up, today, Black Friday. Is the a Revue line more recent than Atco?

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 09:01 PM

Another nice one!

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 03:14 AM

Nice looking classic scope from back before they got all plastic-y.

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 10:01 AM

It looks absolutely mint! Like it was boxed and put away, never used. Right out of a time capsule.

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 11:46 AM

@ macpurity
I can't say much about Atco. My guess is that these are all local retailers. Revue is a brand name of Quelle, which is a huge German retailer. It's a well-known brand name since decades but I have absolutely no idea about if anyone knows this brand name outside of Germany or Central Europe.

Anyway it's "circle K" (manufactured by Towa?) and so I assume they sold this scope probably under dozens of different brand names all around the world.

@ terraclark
Yes it looks really nice and I am very happy with it! It can't be totally unused, though, because there are a few marks in the paint on the white tube, also there were traces of really much dust on some hard-to-reach spots when I got it. It must have been cleaned by someone prior to my purchase. The lens was full of dust and I had to disassemble it and clean it with lots of water to get the dust away.

My guess is that the family that I got it from, some of their older family members once bought it and it was used not much, then left covered in dust somewhere, later cleaned and stored away in the box.

I'd still like to find out if the three eyepieces (10, 15, 40 as pictured above) were original to this set? Thomas

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 12:27 PM

I'd still like to find out if the three eyepieces (10, 15, 40 as pictured above) were original to this set? Thomas


They certainly are of the same vintage as the scope, and I have seen those same Huygens EP's packaged with that same curved-back diagonal with other scopes of that era. Accessory EP's were harder to get back then, and if they were replacements, likely they would have been orthos or a similar upgrade, so 90% chance you have the originals there.
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Posted 30 November 2013 - 05:06 PM

Nice looking scope! Thanks for all the pictures. Looks minty. Please share how the views are once you are able to try it out.

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 06:02 AM

Hi.

Last saturday I get one of this, but an early production that have a wooden storage box (and the brand plate riveted).

If someone is here yet (the last reply is from 2013), I would apreciate a picture of inside the storage box, I don´t know how to accommodate the mount inside !!!

Ah, mine have too the AH 40mm eyepiece, that can accept the moon filter in the outside thread.

Regards,

Llorenc Miro i Martorell

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:46 AM

Congrats! That is a very nice find!



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 01:17 PM

Nice telescope, congrats !!

 

The twist lock feature on the focuser end reminds me of my swift 831.



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Posted 21 March 2017 - 05:20 AM

The focuser has the standard Vixen 36.4mm thread and the original adapter for .095" eyepieces has a nice clamp mechanism that is fastened by the metal barrel-type screw at the rear. (no little setscrew) The picture shows the original diagonal and the aforementioned 40mm eyepiece. If these three eyepieces were original, I reckon that their magnifications were very well selected for this type of scope (40mm gives 23x, 15mm gives 61x, 10mm gives 91x). No outrageous magnifications here.

Here's a pic of my Prinz Optics 550, the same telescope but with slightly different parts. The ep's that came with mine were the usual 20mm, 12.5mm, 6mm. Yours may have been kitted out with the 40mm as these scopes were made to the retailers specs. The box for mine is the same as yours also same layout inside though the ra/dec lock handles on mine are cheap plastic versions which is costcutting by the retailer. The Kenko (circle k) objectives are really good.

 

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 03:30 AM

My 1963 Revue 60/910mm complete with wooden box and accs. I regreased the mechanicals. Optics are fantastic. I like to use my Revue for sun-observations.

 

 

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