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#51 Steve_M_M

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 04:07 PM

Yep. You got it. Very nice, but not worth nearly what a much more rare 4" would bring. Nice detective work Terra :)
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 04:09 PM

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Does anyone know what that silver object is with the attached prism?
 

#53 Terra Nova

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 04:10 PM

Thank you Steve, I've always loved Gotos. :flower:
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 04:11 PM

Me too. I own several and owned a fairly large Goto for several years.

http://www.cloudynig...2251792/page...

http://www.cloudynig...rd=classics&...
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 04:14 PM

Now you need to correct the Ebay listing before you get a very bad buyer.
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 05:39 PM

I noticed in the pix with its cover off that the drive housing is empty... so, only manual slo-mo controls?

Despite the real aperture being only 80mm, and the thinner tripod legs, and no motor drive, it's still a fine Classic Refractor, and should do well at auction...

Any guesses on its age??
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 05:54 PM

Maybe because I have never done that. I always do my own research. Maybe I am just to independent. That is what search engines are for. All you got to do is type in what you are looking for an bam. thousands of bits of information. Maybe I feel like we are being used.


While on one hand I get that, on the other, do we want to be an un-helpful community just hoping to score a good deal because the owner of something special doesn't know and doesn't know how to find out, other than to ask us?

In the end, I think it's cool.


You've just mellowed my thinking on this a bit. :bow:
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 06:01 PM

Thank you all very much, I have no desire to mislead a bidder, or be perceived a delta bravo. Kudo's to Terra for spotting the flaw, and being gracious about it as well. Humble Pie yumm!
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 06:33 PM

Effective diameter is my guess. That scope predated ED glass.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:05 PM

Yes effective diameter. 80mm Goto is still nice but it's no 100mm. Goto may not be a Clark or Brashear but I suspect they were produced in smaller numbers than Zeiss.
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:13 PM

I see that the eBay listing has a $1,000 bid. Hope it came in after the OP made a correction to the listing.
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:32 PM

There's an equally rare Sears (Royal Astro) Model 6345 (90mm) also on eBay for $1000. Reviews and comments on CN --> http://www.cloudynig...3828008/page...
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 09:30 PM

I came late to this party and my head is still spinning! Usually I show up early and that generally explains the head spinning thing...

Sodapopking this telescope was probably still a good trade for $1000 of your services rendered (unless you had invested that $1000 in Apple for the last 10 years that the scope was in your garage... oh well.

Despite the initial disappointment within this community that it is not a 4" scope (me included, I'm only a day drive from picking it up) it is a great collectible/usable. I have 3 Goto Kogaku telescopes. two have crackerjack optics and the third might, but is a fussy HyScore 453 75mm X 1300 that resists collimation. Maybe this summer I will break/tame that beast. Clint mentioned that he was under-impressed with Goto Optical and I can see that. I've been lucky so far. I do believe the optics were not always spot on.

Terra, good sleuthing on this Goto but don't you go getting your Kogakus mixed up. The Emperor's telescope was Nippon Kogaku. IIRC 4.5". Now that I have (5) NK 2.5" scopes can I be the Emperor of something? anything? Didn't think so! Oh well not even the Emperor of hoarding? No Johann has me there!

I do believe the tripod is original. Following are some shots of the tripod under my Goto Kogaku ? X 1200mm Eros model. if the mount is all inside-out and backwards... tough, it looks cool anyway :lol:

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#64 strdst

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 09:32 PM

Tripod, sure looks like the OP's

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 09:42 PM

I thought the same thing. That is an 80mm scope not a 4" scope.


And thus, I should think, is dramatically over-priced at this point.



Not at just $1000
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 09:46 PM

My guess is that it is for solar projection. I have one with my 65mm Nippon Kogaku.
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Posted 15 May 2014 - 09:52 PM

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Does anyone know what that silver object is with the attached prism?


Solar image projection prism device. You can project a solar image the size of a Humvee or a basketball against a science class wall.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 09:57 PM

Hey Dan,

Interesting that Nippon Kogaku also offered one. Have you used yours?
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 10:39 PM

Thanks Keith. I defer to you and Steve as the real experts on Gotos. I am a relative newcomer to having one tho I fell in love with them many years ago when a nice 3" was in a college physics department where I once went to school. About the Emperor, I must have gotten my wires crossed. I do remember reading an article that included pictures of the Emperor's telescope on here a year of so ago, and was sure it was a Goto, but as I tell my girls, don't hold my memory to accountable now that I have entered my dotage. ;)

At any rate, its so nice to see another one (Goto) emerge, and one that appears to be so complete with all the goodies and doodads. I still feel like the tripod is likely original as is the accessory tray as they look so similar to those in the old catalogs. This is one very nice kit and will make someone here very happy. They are truly beautiful old scopes.
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 10:58 PM

OK not gonna give me Emperor status for anything Terra? ANYTHING?? Well me neither lol!

The fit and finish of these Goto scopes are quite nice. When you compare the Goto 3" to any Royal Astro 3"... you just can't. I throw a RA 76mm tripod or pier over my shoulder and I'm off to observe. The Goto's with eq mounts not so much...multiple trips and still OW! :lol: but worth it!
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 10:59 PM

For those interested. Here is the link to the article concerning Emperor Hirohito's telescope:

http://akiroom.com/r...ukai200603.html

Fascinating pictures!
 

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 11:10 PM

For those interested. Here is the link to the article concerning Emperor Hirohito's telescope:

http://akiroom.com/r...ukai200603.html

Fascinating pictures!


I would reserve that as my Holy Grail knowing what the 65mm Nippon Kogaku can reveal!
 

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 12:01 AM

Keith,

I must trust your opinion on the tripod. That thing does not look right to me. Here is another fun image of the projection unit.

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 12:55 AM

Yes I have Keith. It works. Just point it at a white piece of paper or cardboard. It has a place for filter, but I do not have any.

Take care,
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Posted 16 May 2014 - 06:06 AM

now that I have entered my dotage

Welcome to My World! It's not so bad: There are no re-runs, since I can't remember the original episode...

I throw a RA 76mm tripod or pier over my shoulder and I'm off to observe.

Really? I guess I need to hit the gym more often, because I had to put casters on mine:

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