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#7526 rolo

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 12:56 PM

Whoops, my bad. Are they worth much?

I'd say $35 to $40 a piece.



#7527 CHASLX200

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:15 PM

Actually none are RG but rather series I or II Orthos.

Could be the 2's with the blue print gent.



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Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:15 PM

Whoops, my bad. Are they worth much?

Most of the Series 2's are Tani (probably the same glass as the (T) volcano tops).  Hang on to them for at least another 10 years -- don't see too many original Japan models now.


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#7529 CHASLX200

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:16 PM

Whoops, my bad. Are they worth much?

No. Can't pay me to look thru one. Had many. Narrow FOV and ER is nose bleed right up to the eyeball with the higher power eyepieces.



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Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:20 PM

I really love my 7mm R.G. It’s one of my favorite eyepieces!

My OR 7mm was the first RG that I bought -- back in 1980.  I still have it, and it makes just about every scope give a great view.  When I saw that they were collectible, I packed my set, and use the "new" UO HD Orthos.  I never bought any of the Wide Fields, but maybe I should... 

 

FYI:  That first 7mm had a JAPAN (T) black sticker on the barrel, that I removed.


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#7531 Russell Smith

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:22 PM

I still have the 25 and 9mm that came with my 2045.
I think J.W. nailed it.
I use mine a little less now that I do have 20 and 7mm rg eyepieces .
That's with my examples of course.

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:26 PM

The 7mm Meade RG is one of my favorite planetary eyepieces. Very few eyepieces are as sharp and those that are, usually cost way more money. My RG is sharper than my TV DeLite (only by a very small margin), but the DeLite is much more comfortable to view with and has a much larger FOV.


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#7533 Bomber Bob

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:32 PM

Compared to my vintage 7mm Orthoscopics, my Nagler 7 is miraculous -- about as sharp, with a wide field, and comfortable eye relief.  Tough to beat.



#7534 Russell Smith

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:38 PM

No. Can't pay me to look thru one. Had many. Narrow FOV and ER is nose bleed right up to the eyeball with the higher power eyepieces.

I have similar experience with some of my limited collection of eyepieces

 

A Meade research grade eyepiece thread (if not done)

Is a discussion I would welcome.

Just have the two common ones.



#7535 CHASLX200

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:59 PM

I have similar experience with some of my limited collection of eyepieces

 

A Meade research grade eyepiece thread (if not done)

Is a discussion I would welcome.

Just have the two common ones.

I had some RG's as well and after being spoiled with Radians and Dellites with easy on the eye ER i could never go back to any RG eyepiece with nose bleed ER.


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#7536 Russell Smith

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 07:02 PM

I had some RG's as well and after being spoiled with Radians and Dellites with easy on the eye ER i could never go back to any RG eyepiece with nose bleed ER.

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#7537 CHASLX200

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 07:14 PM

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Sure can stan.


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#7538 Senex Bibax

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 07:32 PM

Not a vintage scope but I plan to use it with one I am buying this weekend. I picked up this mother of wooden tripods today off Ottawa Kijiji for $CAD 60.00. It's a Spectra Physics surveyors' or laser tripod with elevator column. Massive spikes on the ends of the legs. Even with the legs unextended it's over 1 metre (4 ft) tall, and the unextended legs are over 10 cm (4") across. The only thing it needs are some chains to keep the legs from spreading too far.

 

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#7539 Augustus

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 08:13 PM

I'd say $35 to $40 a piece.

In that case, the scope pays for itself! 

 

I'm curious, does anyone know much about these helical-focus units? I've seen only a few.


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Posted 14 August 2019 - 08:59 PM

In that case, the scope pays for itself!

I'm curious, does anyone know much about these helical-focus units? I've seen only a few.


They're the telephoto lens variant of the Meade 4 inch SCT formula. Pretty sharp, but a good 2045 would be slightly better.

I think these manufacturers put the less than perfect optics in the telephoto units and saved the better ones for the Astro units. The Astro units were advertised to be diffraction limited, while the telephotos were not and frankly don't need to be to still perform well.

edit: I have one of each and the 2045 has the nicer, almost perfect set of mirrors. The telephoto has a bit of SA. But testing them side by side on the same night on planets, the difference is practically negligible. I have to really convince myself the 2045 is showing a darker Cassini division or darker Jupiter cloud bands. They both show the same detail.

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#7541 Boom

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 09:12 PM

In that case, the scope pays for itself!

I'm curious, does anyone know much about these helical-focus units? I've seen only a few.

Do let us know how your sample performs. I'm curious how you'd rate it to other small Celestrons you've had.

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 09:44 PM

Do let us know how your sample performs. I'm curious how you'd rate it to other small Celestrons you've had.

Will do!

 

What is your definition of small? By my count I've had the following catadioptrics:

  • 1 Celestron C90 Astro
  • 5 Meade ETX-90s
  • 1 Vixen VMC95L (girlfriend's, it sucked so it was replaced with the other two CATs then a Tak FC-76 because those scopes were mediocre)
  • 1 NexStar 4SE (not a classic but included anyway)
  • 1 Orion StarMax 102 (not a classic but included anyway, was really my girlfriend's)
  • 1 Meade 107D
  • 2 C5s (both orange)
  • 3 Meade 2080s (one 1990s "B" unit, two LX3s, one LX3 was really my girlfriend's)
  • 3 regular orange C8s
  • 2 sandcast C8s
  • 1 tricolor/Velvetone C8
  • 2 C8 Celestars
  • 1 Super C8 Plus
  • 1 C8 Powerstar
  • 1 Ultima 2000 C8
  • 1 Ultima C8
  • 1 Meade 2120 LX6 (those were the f/6.3 versions)
  • 1 10" Schafer-Maksutov that never actually worked
  • 1 C11

Total: 30 catadioptrics + 1 on the way now.... 12 of those are just C8s.

 

And that's just the catadioptrics.... here's the refractors (Classic and non-classic):

  • 1 Lunt LS35
  • 3 Galileoscopes (do these even count)?
  • 1 Monolux 4380
  • 2 ATCO 60mm refractors
  • 1 Celestron CO-60E
  • 2 Celestron C60s (sold one, friend owns the other)
  • 2 Takahashi FC-76s (one is my girlfriend's now)
  • 1 Meade Model 312, 80mm f/11 refractor
  • 1 ShortTube 80
  • 1 80mm Antares finderscope with 1.25" eyepieces... technically a refractor?
  • At least 4 cheapo Meade plastic refractors
  • 1 Explore Scientific ED102CF (technically a loaner, but I had it for a few months and used it exactly twice)
  • 1 Explore Scientific AR102 Firstlight F/10
  • 2 Jaegers 5" f/5 ATM scopes (dismantled one because it was falling apart, sold the other

Total: 23 refractors

 

Reflectors:

  • 1 Astroscan
  • 1 Astroscan-based ATM job
  • 3 or so cheapo Chinese small reflectors from Celestron, Meade, Etc
  • 1 Celestron PowerSeeker 127EQ (briefly, threw it in the garbage soon after)
  • 1 Celestron AstroFi 130
  • 1 GSO 6" f/9 Ritchey-Chretien
  • 2 Edmund Super Space Conquerors
  • 1 ATM'ed 6" f/4 which I looked through once
  • 1 Criterion RV6
  • 1 homemade 6" f/4.3 Dob in various forms, rebuilt 2 times and working on a 4th version
  • 1 homemade 8" f/5 Dob (never really worked)
  • 1 Zhumell Z8
  • 1 Sky-Watcher Classic 200P
  • 1 Orion XT8
  • 1 ATM'ed 8" f/6 with a GSO primary which I scrapped pretty quick
  • 1 Meade 10" Starfinder EQ (miss it)
  • 1 homemade 10" f/5.6 Dob w/Coulter primary (miss it)
  • 1 homemade 12" f/5 Dob w/unknown primary (still have it)
  • 1 homemade 16" f/4.7 Dob (miss it), rebuilt to some extent once
  • 1 homemade 20" f/4.5-ish Dob (sucked, scrapped)

Total: 22 or 25 reflectors depending on how you count, with 4 more on the way. Also helped construct and tested two 6" f/8 Dobs, have tested maybe 10 mirrors that weren't in scopes, and I have a 10" f/8 mirror from the scope made in 1941 by Bob Cox sitting in my drawer.

 

This is the first time you've made me actually count and I'm shocked it's not over 100 telescopes, though 75/78 is still a lot over only 3 years and most of them have been bought over the last two. I average about one new scope a week since this time in 2017.


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#7543 Chuck Hards

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Posted 14 August 2019 - 10:11 PM

Good start.  


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Posted 14 August 2019 - 10:15 PM

Good start.  

I'm guessing your scope count is somewhere in the quadruple digits, Chuck?



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Posted 14 August 2019 - 10:16 PM

Yes, before long you’ll be giving Chas a run for his money! ;)


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Posted 14 August 2019 - 10:16 PM

Will do!

 

What is your definition of small? By my count I've had the following catadioptrics:

 

Impressive list Augustus.bow.gif   Just the small cats such as the C90 and C5 will do, and while you're at it, the Meade ETX90 and 107D for good measure. flowerred.gif


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Posted 14 August 2019 - 10:17 PM

Yes, before long you’ll be giving Chas a run for his money! wink.gif

Going by his posts, I actually don't think he's crossed the 50 threshold.



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Posted 14 August 2019 - 10:20 PM

Going by his posts, I actually don't think he's crossed the 50 threshold.

Why, it must be close to 50 C8s alone! :lol:


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Posted 14 August 2019 - 10:43 PM

 

This is the first time you've made me actually count and I'm shocked it's not over 100 telescopes, though 75/78 is still a lot over only 3 years and most of them have been bought over the last two. I average about one new scope a week since this time in 2017.

No Unitron, Mayflower, Selsi, Goto, Swift, Zeiss, Tasco, or Sears in the refractor list, so you'll easily make 100 if you get into those! Still plenty of room for expansion! Keep up the good work!

 

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 02:26 AM

 

 

FYI Update: On the Buyee Custom 80M side, meh, well. Ooo. Not lovin' the day. It was packaged for shipment, Pkg was measured & weighed, shipping paid, waiting for EMS pickup. Yesterday I check, EMS has been cancelled and refunded, and the shipping has nearly doubled - JPY 17,371 to JPY 31,740 - because suddenly it 'exceeds EMS' and 'has to ship DHL'. Really? Not expected.

 

If they can't explain how in just a matter of hours a 10.46 kg package that was packaged for shipping, measured and weighed and definitely met EMS limits, was paid for, and set to ship suddenly requires shipping more expensive than even  one 20 kg pkg, via a method still listed as 'unavailable' then I'll:

  1. figure they're loopy,
  2. 'dispose' the scope back to the seller and
  3. ask for a refund through Buyee or Paypal.

This is a 'Buyee' test, safely low priced, hopefully still fruitful - but a test; at worst I'm out $75 and some time. That would be sad, because I want that mount. Fingers crossed for joyous news.

 End result: Paypal 'forced' refund, according to Buyee. They refunded, and then tried to rebill immediately (I cancelled them on PayPal earlier). Emailed me further to say 'pay or lose membership!"  - forwarded that to PP. Something, something is 'not right' with them. No one does business that way, except maybe the guy trying to stiff me on an Astromaster 90AZ. meh - got better things to do.  Refunds go to the Istar fund =)

 

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Be gentle and peaceful each day

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Edited by AstroKerr, 15 August 2019 - 11:23 AM.



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