New Zeiss Fluorite Binos
Posted 26 February 2004 - 02:07 PM
Hot off the press from a poster at Astromart , the new Zeiss "APO" binos I promised would be arriving soon have arrived in the market place.
I am both surprised and dissapointed that all three models are in fact 42mm ( in 7x 8x or 10x )
I would have thought that to make the most of fluorite glass, higher magnification and larger objectives would have been a more sensible alternative ?
Posted 26 February 2004 - 03:06 PM
It would be nice if Zeiss were back in the running.
Mmmm. I'd better not visit an optics dealer when they appear.
Posted 26 February 2004 - 03:16 PM
Note: I have NOT used the binoculars in question, so all of this is just an educated opinion.
Posted 26 February 2004 - 03:44 PM
Posted 26 February 2004 - 04:57 PM
Prices look reasonable though - 1361 Euro for the 10 x 42s
I wonder how much they will cost when they reach these shores.
Posted 26 February 2004 - 05:04 PM
The most annoying thing about VAT is that when it was first introduced , it was supposed to be non -applicable to ESSENTIAL goods , such as food and binoculars !
Regards -- Kenny.
Posted 26 February 2004 - 09:11 PM
Posted 27 February 2004 - 01:54 AM
Don't forget that you can buy direct from Germany from anywhere in the EU, so that price should be the same.
Or at least you can in theory, despite what UK retailers may say - Single European Market etc.
I was thinking of certain telescope/binocular retailers based here in the UK and their wayward pricing policies.
Posted 27 February 2004 - 07:52 PM
I compared the 10X50 Voyager ED to a Nikon 10X42 SE, and it compared more favorably than I expected, almost as sharp, and the color saturation is noticeably better. The ED has a "snap" to the image, like Fuji color film gives autumn foliage photos.
The ED has a smaller FOV (5*) than the SE (6*). The edges are decent though not as good as the SE, which are sharp to the edge, and the ED shows more distortion across the field. But boy, that color saturation looks great on Cardinals, which appear almost luminescent. Can't wait until the colorful migrant birds return (I thought I heard a Robin today, though it seems unlikely). However, I did see some chipmunks for the first time this year (and saved one from the jaws of my neighor's cat!).
I was expecting the Voyager to be about the same quality as the Ultima, with less false color, but the clarity and color saturation are exceptional. It also has great depth of field, though a long close focus (about 20 ft.). For astronomy, I like the SE better, because of the flatter field and better ergonomics (the ED is front heavy so I have to shift my hands forward). On the Moon, the SE's on-axis color correction is very good, on par with the ED, but for birding, the EDs produce more vibrant images, which seems to enhance the feather detail. Even grayish snowbirds seemed to have more zip, so did the evergreen tree I was vieiwing them in. Also, no false color against snow. This bin was a prototype, I'm told. Don't know why EO decided not to sell them.
Now that I've lowered my limit for ED bins to 10X50, I'm curious about the new 10X42mm flourite Victory (esp. if Zeiss replaced the smelly rubber tire armor). The body looks like a hybrid between the Classic and the Victory II. But since it costs over $1,000 more than my Voyager ED, I'll just have to remain curious!
Posted 28 February 2004 - 11:08 AM
I recently purchased an Eagle Optics 10X50 Voyager ED, which was made by Celestron. This bin was a prototype, I'm told. Don't know why EO decided not to sell them.
Darn. Unavailable? antone seen these anywhere else?
for birding, the EDs produce more vibrant images, which seems to enhance the feather detail. Even grayish snowbirds seemed to have more zip, so did the evergreen tree I was vieiwing them in. Also, no false color against snow.
Same as my experience with my Swift 8.5x44 ED's, evidently a good pair.