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hang in there, beginners - things get better

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#1 bobzeq25



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Posted 29 January 2015 - 12:35 PM

My first three images of the Horsehead.  I did not realize what a challenging target it is, based on all the superb photos I've seen here.


First one was with the Sony NEX.  Didn't really know where to point, this is a heavily cropped bottom of the frame.  Had to stretch the image way past reason, but, I got the Horsehead!


Realizing the low far red sensitivity of the NEX was killing me, I got out the ASI120MM that will hopefully soon be autoguiding.  And looked at images so I could starhop, necessary with the tiny 1/3 chip.  OK, the artifacts below the Horsehead are gone, but it's more than made up for by the artifacts above.  Not to mention the lousy focus.


Third is just doing everything a bit better, the biggies are focus, total imaging time, and the postprocessing (a triumph of experience over lack of skill).  The LPS filter may or may not have helped, it was largely a futile effort to get less bloated stars.   Not awful, something I could actually show my friends. 


Details.  Celestron C80ED, ASI120MM (cooling?  we don't need no stinking cooling.), the sometimes maligned here ZEQ25 (the old man can't carry much).  80X30 lights, 10X30 darks,  No flats (long story).  Deep Sky Stacker, Corel Paintshop Pro (the bargain choice).


So, hang in there, things get better.

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 02:44 PM

Great post!   :)

#3 Ken Sturrock

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 02:57 PM

Thanks for posting this. Nice comparison and encouragement. All true!

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 03:14 PM

Very nice :) Excellent post indeed.

#5 SergeC


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Posted 29 January 2015 - 03:20 PM

Yes, great post and progress. It does get easier, eventually.

#6 David Ault

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 04:00 PM

Good encouraging post.




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Posted 29 January 2015 - 06:58 PM

I'm very much a beginner in every stretch.  Every night I get to take my scope out I'm having a blast.  Sometimes things are great, other times it's seems like nothing is going right.  I learn something new every time, and I really enjoy it.  Great post!

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Posted 29 January 2015 - 08:55 PM

Nice progression!  The same title could be supplanted with more advanced imagers too :)  I'm pretty sure for at least the first few years, most of us could look at a progression of our progress and not recognize the novice we were only a short time back.

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 04:32 PM

Great post indeed! I have the same mount and scope as you do and I am shooting with an unmodded DSLR. I do have a little experience with imaging with an 8 in. SCT. (Just enough experience with that to know that it requires a lot more skill than I have right now.) I agree with th3r3ds0x that I learn something every time I'm out with my scope. I often learn something each time I visit these forums too! 

Excellent work on the Horsehead bobzeq25!  :waytogo: I haven't tried that target yet. I have done M42, The Double Cluster and just the other night I took a stab at Comet Lovejoy with the moon right on it's heels....Thanks for this post and the reminder that we are indeed making progress!!



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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:18 PM

Thanks for this encouraging thread.  I've been observing 45 years, but didn't start imaging until last year -- with a cheap lunar/planetary Orion StarShoot II.  Just got a DSO capable camera, so I'm about to enter another learning curve, and I appreciate your examples.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 09:24 PM

At least your stars are round instead of looking like grains of rice.

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 12:25 AM

This makes me appreciate my first two lights, from my 80mm APO and later my 8" taken in the past 8 months.

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#13 Ken Sturrock

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Posted 23 May 2015 - 10:24 AM

Well, Dave, if those were your first light images then I think you've done very well.

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